The winner of Leipzig? PSP

by Andrew Yoon { Aug 24th 2006 at 9:00PM }

NOTE: This editorial is the opinion of Andrew Yoon, and does not represent the opinion of PSP Fanboy, Joystiq or Weblogs, Inc.

Every video game convention, there's a "winner" of some sorts. It's pretty safe to say that the Nintendo Wii "won" the last E3, proving that waving around our hands can be fun. Not only did the Wii prove that the control scheme works, there was an amazing list of exclusives, from Nintendo's own Mario to third party efforts, like Red Steel. Nintendo wowed the crowd at E3 because of the amazing quality and potential of the games for its system.

Did Nintendo pull the big win at the Games Convention in Leipzig, Germany this year? No. Did Microsoft? No. Sony took the win for this year's show, but not because of a great showing of PlayStation 3 goods (there were none at the show), but because of Konami's absolutely excellent lineup of upcoming PSP games. Yes, you heard me right: PSP "won" Leipzig.

To understand why PSP "won" Leipzig, I think it'll help to see why the other consoles didn't fare as well.

Why PlayStation 3 didn't win
Was PlayStation 3 even there? Sony didn't enter this round, and they're placing all bets on the Tokyo Game Show. I guess the PS3 has a prettier version of Virtua Tennis, but I don't think that's worth talking about. They DID have Metal Gear Solid 4, but it certainly wasn't anything new over their already-impressive E3 showing.

Why Xbox 360 didn't win
Of the three next-gen consoles, Xbox 360 pulled by far the most impressive showing. Scoring next-gen exclusivity for soccer games (at least this year) is a huge win for Microsoft, considering how there are many people (myself included) that are in a post-World Cup depression. But what else was there? A laughably bad presentation of Rare's next game... and not much else. I'm excited for Settlers of Cataan (seriously) and Lost Planet, but there was nothing really new that grabbed my attention.

Why Nintendo Wii didn't win
After such a huge presence at E3, Leipzig was a disappointment. Why? We still don't have a price or a release date. These are the basics, Nintendo! Stop teasing us like that! Battalion Wars 2 and a new Super Mario Strikers game was announced, but these aren't really high-profile games. Red Steel has gotten a lot worse graphically from its computer-rendered lies.

Why Nintendo DS didn't win
The DS had a lot of games, but none of them are really heavy-hitters. Lunar Knights returned and was (unsurprisingly) good. As this games reel shows, there's a lot of excellent games coming out for the system, including Pokemon: Mysterious Dungeon and Yoshi's Island 2, but these were all shown (and playable) at E3.

So, that leaves us to our inevitable conclusion:
Why Sony PSP won Leipzig
Sony didn't come to support its hardware or its games, but Konami completely represented for our handheld. You had smaller name games, like Death Jr. 2 and Coded Arms, but you also had two of the biggest games at the show: Silent Hill Origins and Metal Gear Solid... and both are PSP exclusive titles. Silent Hill features some stellar graphics, and that game is very early in development. Metal Gear Solid features a more extensive multiplayer component than its console prequel, and features the "best script ever" for a Metal Gear game ever. It was playable and while it's a little shaky, it offered something new for the Convention. Yes, other platforms may have more big-profile games coming for it, but no real new news came from Leipzig. Konami showed there's stil a lot of life left in this system.

I think you should take the "PSP Challenge" (a la Pepsi Challenge) and show your friends footage from these recently revealed games. I know I surprised a lot of people, who have forgotten that the PSP is capable of really beautiful graphics. Remind people that these are new and exclusive offerings of the handheld, and you'll see a lot of people's opinions start to change about the system. It's really easy to bash the PSP, but now's your chance to really educate these people about why it's a great time to get excited for the PSP again. With such an excellent showing at Games Convention (even without the support of Sony!), Tokyo Game Show is going to blow us away... and I can't wait.

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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)

Michael Anderson @ Aug 24th 2006 10:20PM

... you actually cited Coded Arms in support of something positive ... desperate delusions abound ... whether or not the PSP had the best showing was completely undermined by that inclusion ...

Havok @ Aug 24th 2006 11:01PM

Why does everyone slam Coded Arms all the time? It's actually a fun game, and the multiplayer is good. Just gotta look past the fact that the controls arent HOME console grade. Fun game, and everyone over at the CCP is excited for MGS! W0000!

Maxwell @ Aug 24th 2006 11:15PM

Yes Nintendo was a real letdown. Glad Sony more than made up for it.

John Kimble @ Aug 25th 2006 12:09AM

STFU, the PSP sucks, it's an overpriced media center.

Shane @ Aug 25th 2006 1:01AM

#4. You are saying this on the PSP Fanboy site. I may be jumping to conclusions here but I would say you are a nintendo fanboy. The psp is a media center with great games. You can have fun and then do other things.

Louis @ Aug 25th 2006 1:36AM

i didn't mind coded arms too much either, i might look into that game, death jr was pretty cool too, i'm still reluctant to agree that the PSP had the best showing but i wasn't there but i like what i've heard from this event especially with MGS portable ops and silent hill orgins, making me excited to pick up my psp again

pixelator @ Aug 25th 2006 2:20AM

I liked Coded Arms just fine, a solid FPS that I like to play a hell of a lot better than the stylus-sweeping-tapping, system-juggling act required for Metroid on the DS. I don't know about Nintendo freaks, but I don't like to have to work my ass off to play a game - and that's likely to go double for the tiny, cheap looking, ridiculously named Wii.

I don't think Konami's titles are the only thing showing there's "life left" in the PSP, but it's nice to see one facet from one developer was shining brightly. Even if Summa at Nintystiq ragged on the MGS analog control.

Nice to hear you're not throwing in your lot with the 'stiq writers, Andrew.

kingplayer @ Aug 25th 2006 3:22AM

I'm also a psp fanboy andi took psp photographs with the gps ;)

see my website !

daniel-kun @ Aug 25th 2006 4:24AM

Hey, finally some REAL fanboyism here.
Much appreciated. :D
And I find it great that the GPS can take photos, too. :-P

CitizenGeek @ Aug 25th 2006 8:42AM

Aren't you really trying to say that Konami "won" Leipzig? And anyway, Death Jr and Coded Arms were both awful games (and in the case of Coded Arms, Soul-deadingly awful), also just because a game carries the name of a good franchise (Silent Hill, MGS) dosn't make it a good game. Mario Party, anyone?

You dont need to know @ Aug 25th 2006 9:04AM

@ 7
Look it doesnt matter how much you bash Metroid on DS (I will try and say this as politely as possible considering the fact that this is a PSP Fanboy site) but, DS, even though it isnt perfect, does a whole of a lot better job, bringing FPS to a handheld than PSP will ever do. Have you even played Metroid on Ds. I can move, aim anywhere on the screen with an extreame precision that even rivals that of a mouse and shoot ALL at the same time, thats somethn that's very hard to accomplish with Psp. And i know those of you who have actually played Metroid hunters will agree with me. Yes it can be a pain on your thump sometimes, but its still better. And yes i am a Nintendo fan, but that doesnt mean i dont love PSP. Its an awesome handheld that should be apreciated by all. No offence anyone, its just that give each handheld their kudos when they excel in something.

Tiago @ Aug 25th 2006 9:16AM

OK, silent hill and MGS are here, when do we get news about crisis core? :F

uchiha5 @ Aug 25th 2006 9:53AM

Seriously pixelater, whats up with your denile in the fact the DS is way better for FPS then PSP. Maybe your sayng this because either a)you don't own the game, b)your to lazy to get through the learning curve or c) your a total and complete fanboy. I don't really care which one of those is you but for you to say that coded arms have better controls the MPH is ridiculous. Oh and as for your comment with the Wii. Its already known they haven't got the FPS controls for Wii down yet but it is known to be more fun the analog controls. As for it being cheap looking. Is that why its constantly be complimented for being beautiful while PS3 is being criticized for resemblying a grill.

As for the PSP winning Leipeg, I guess it did pretty well although I think no one won being that the show was pretty much a bore. If this guy thought PSP won this imagine TGS. But I don't really care about this guys oppinion anyway. For one thing the comment about Red Steel just showed that anything he says is not close to valid. Everyone knows the firs video shown was computer rendered and then we got to see the real game which looked nothing like that. At GC we got to see the improved Red Steel and compared to the E3 build its a MASSIVE improvement. So I don't get wow has it gotten worse for something that wasn't even real-time in the first place. Oh and Coded Arms? Nuff said.

.ed @ Aug 25th 2006 10:16AM

uh.. I thought the PSP showing was pretty weak...

Just because Metal Gear is on the system doesn't mean the system wins a show.

The same shit was shown at E3 and made no difference... so just because LGC is a smaller show, it stood out more... but seriously the whole show was Weak, not just PSP... it's never been a big show anyway

Player1 @ Aug 25th 2006 10:16AM

"DS, even though it isnt perfect, does a whole of a lot better job, bringing FPS to a handheld than PSP will ever do."

My response to that: Syphon Filter. No it's not first person (it's third), but it uses first person controls successfully. It's seriously like playing on a console once you get the hang of it. As far as Metroid goes, I find tapping on things with the stylus to shoot kind of like playing duck hunt with the gun one inch from the screen.

pixelator @ Aug 25th 2006 10:30AM

@13, Why must a person be in 'DENIAL' because they prefer analog input for an FPS? I don't like the stylus control. I don't think it's conducive to strafing/circling (can you say scribbling frantically in one direction?) or other FPS movement. The touchscreen just isn't big enough. If you want to hear about how good a single-analog FPS can be, you Nintendo fanboys might want to look up a couple of little-known AAA games called Goldeneye and Perfect Dark on the single-analog-equipped N64. As for your other comments, I think you might be referring to yourself when you say "c) your a total and complete fanboy."

"Its already known they haven't got the FPS controls for Wii down yet but it is known to be more fun the analog controls."

Go look up 'oxymoron'. I'll wait.

"Is that why its constantly be complimented for being beautiful while PS3 is being criticized for resemblying a grill."

You mean by your fellow Nintendo fans? Because nobody I know (several 20 and 30 something gamers from hardcore to casual) thinks the Wii looks like anything more than a box, or that the PS3 looks bad.

And yes, I own Metroid. No, it's not comparable to a mouse and keyboard. Shame on you for even making that comparison! Metroid may have more levels and be better designed and balanced, but I just can't abide that control scheme. Tap to jump? So you can't maneuver when jumping. You can't even use your right hand for buttons, relegating your left hand to the job of holding the DS plus tapping one shoulder button and d-pad. Sorry, Metroid control just doesn't cut it. Neither platform is what I'd call optimal for FPS, but even with the analog PSP nub limited as it is, it's more intuitive and flexible than devoting your right hand to a cramped little plastic stylus on a cramped little touchscreen.

You dont need to know @ Aug 25th 2006 10:47AM

@ 15 "As far as Metroid goes, I find tapping on things with the stylus to shoot kind of like playing duck hunt with the gun one inch from the screen."

I dont know if thats good or bad, but by that statement, it seems that you my friend have not really played that game. The default controls for the game doesnt include you tapping the screen to shoot down enemies, that was only in the Demo. And you shoot with with "L". Enough said, we are not here to talk about Metroid Hunters.

In the preview of the New MGS game, i saw a few pictures that had a graphics-novel style to it, is this how the cut-scenes are going to be represented?

Player1 @ Aug 25th 2006 11:18AM

Who cares. It's still no Syphon Filter.

pixelator @ Aug 25th 2006 12:14PM

One final note on this: While graphics don't always make the game, presentation is key with an FPS. On the DS, you're squinting at the one small, low resolution screen to see the two pixels off in the distance that MIGHT be an enemy, or might just be a crate of dildos.

On the PSP, everything else being equal, you can see more and in better detail - that means objects farther away are presented in higher definition and easier to identify. That's one instance of graphics affecting gameplay. This also applies to RTS or turn-based strategy games, where the number of units you can fit on a screen is quite dependent on the resolution and display size you're working with.

I'm not saying Metroid outright sucks, or that the DS can't ever do a decent RTS (or turn-based, as Advance Wars shows clearly), either. People with smaller hands or who don't mind working with the MGH control scheme and the DS display will have variable mileage.

JacKal @ Aug 25th 2006 1:31PM

Wow. Who let the fanboys out?

uchiha5 @ Aug 25th 2006 1:42PM

pixelater, how am I the fanboy when your the one constantly defending the PSP's FPS controls when everyone knows they outright suck compared to the DS's. Don't you realise you and maybe 3 other people are the only ones that think the PSP's controls are better then the DS's. Doesn't that say something. Oh sorry, I meant to say aren't you and 3 other Sony fanboys the only ones that are still in denial about the PSP's crappy little nub. Yes I know there are FPS games that work good one consoles but they have TWO analog sticks.

As for goldeneye, what a bad comparison. You do know hwat year this is right? The controls are outdated. Playing with one stick is crap these days. I don't understand how can't manuever with the touble tap of the screen. You double tap real quick, move around with the d-pad. That simple. Its either you don't know how to play games or your just making up stuff. Actually your most likely just making stuff up because You NEVER have to scribble in one direction for strafing. The touchscreens used for turning while the d-pad is used for moving. So when do you have to scribble frantically in one direction? And yes it does work like a mouse and keyboard for more fast paced and fluid action. Its even said in coutless reviews. Maybe you should be ashamed of YOURSELF. But nothing Im saying is going to get through that thick fanboy head of yours because thats just the way of the fanboy. Criticize the other systems, make stuff up to back yourself up.

As for the look of the Wii. I seriously thing you need to consider getting yourself a pair of glasses or just stop being a fanboy. What looks better, a sleek, shiny, small machine or a big, ugly, monster, I don't know what to say to describe just how ugly this thing is. And most of my freinds are actually Sony followers and they admit Wii is beautiful. I really think fanboys need to just start exepting the other systems stregths. DS is better for FPS and RTS while the PSP is better for sports and racing games. But as I said before everything Im saying is going to get through to you if your the fanboy you make your self out to be so Im pretty much done with this.

Lord Meph @ Aug 25th 2006 1:53PM

In the time it took to read this column that inexplicably declared the PSP the 'winner' of the tiny Leipzig convention I'm STILL waiting for the match to load on my PSP WWE Smackdown game!!!

heywuzhapnin @ Aug 25th 2006 2:18PM

hahahahahah u psp junkies just cant admit that nintendo's kikn sonys ass (sigh)
i mean come on ! the psp was the worst of the show by onlly having 2 decent games 2 play
and as for nintendo, nothing but quality

bottom line: psp sucks

VJ @ Aug 25th 2006 2:19PM

Agreed. PSP had the best Leipzig by far. Infact it kicked the DSs ass at E3 too.

GTA:VCS, SH:0, MGS:PO and were announced. Crisis Core shown off. Had two great shows now.

And F*** off you DS fanboys. Who cares if you like the DS more, why whenever theres some positive PSP info you go into PMT mode? F***** pansies.

Player1 @ Aug 25th 2006 2:22PM

"how am I the fanboy when your the one constantly defending the PSP's FPS controls when everyone knows they outright suck compared to the DS's"

That's not a fanboy comment or anything.

I'll say it again: Syphon Filter. It is proof of FPS controls on the PSP. You can look with the nub and move with the buttons or vice versa. It works fine. I guess dsfanboys can keep ignoring it like they do the extended life battery, or any game that's good, or any game that has no loading times.

Let's see, who's a bigger fanboy. Someone who defend the PSP on pspfanboy or DS fanboys who go to a site called pspfanboy and post about how much the psp sucks on every message board? They don't even compete for the same market. The DS goes for little cry babies who's parents buy their consoles for them, and the PSP goes for adults.

Player1 @ Aug 25th 2006 2:25PM

What games are DS fanboys referencing for the PSP's FPS controls? Coded Arms? Yeah, let's take all the worst examples as representatives of the systems capabilities. That's brilliant.

Squints @ Aug 25th 2006 2:33PM

Yeah, European gamers hate football (soccer) - so when Microsoft announced it would have soccer as a next-gen exclusive for 12 months they practicially bought PSPs on the spot.

Sony didn't even have a conference. All it had was a booth running videos available on the internet for the past three months.

Doesn't sound like a winner.

Player1 @ Aug 25th 2006 2:41PM

"Don't you realise you and maybe 3 other people are the only ones that think the PSP's controls are better then the DS's. Doesn't that say something."

It's not just the FPS controls. It's the DS games. Maybe two sound interesting, and the rest are things I've played a million times before on every generation of Nintendo console, though know that DS fanboys claim the PSP is full of ports (partially because it is actually capable of them and doesn't have to convert everything to a card game).

The point is, most people thinking something is better doesn't make it so. You see people are different and have their own preferences. No matter how much you like your DS, it's not going to make people who prefer a PSP like it more. Sorry. Now there is another site for people like you called dsfanboy.com. I suggest you stay over there where you can share your joy with like minded children.

Lord Meph @ Aug 25th 2006 3:17PM

Its funny to see people accusing each other of being fanboys on a site called pspfanboy (and the people who came here via link from dsfanboy or wiifanboy).

Iguanaray @ Aug 25th 2006 3:58PM

@ Pixelator and other people:
I find the PSP a nice portable and all, but at the same time I think it's sort of weird that some people here rant about the Wii and DS for actually requiring *gasp* hand and body motions to control. OH LORD. O:

I don't know about you, but I've played my DS and Ouendan (which requires tons of tapping, rubbing and spinning the stylus across the screen) for hours and I don't feel like my hands are about to fall off any time soon. Stylus controls have been pretty damn fun so far and definetely beat normal controls if they're used properly. In fact, there happens to be a really revolutionary and successful game that's ENTIRELY based on "working your ass off" and doing more than moving your fingers around on a controller from the confort of your couch, surrounded by Red Bull cans. It's known as "Dance Dance Revolution" and I'm pretty sure that most Sony fans have heard of it. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember anyone's body blowing up after having played it for large amounts of time

As for the "tiny, cheap looking, ridiculously named Wii", at least note that just because loads of developers like EA are going to release countless gimmicky and unoriginal games for it, it doesn't mean it won't get a huge swarm of original and great games later, either. As for its looks, it looks fine to me and I never thought small size is a BAD thing. Amd that's all I'll say on this subject.

If there's one thing I agree with Pixelator on, it's the whole Metroid thing. Most full 3D games, especially FPSs, just don't work on the DS very well at all. No matter what "graphics aren't everything" stuff Nintendo fanboys use to protect FPSs on the DS, the low resolution and small screen don't really help at all, and the DS won't ever get even close to actual mouse-like controls.

Take Advance Wars for instance, I've tried using the touchscreen controls for a while but noticed how stupidly useless it was, quickly getting back to normal analog controls. Of course, the touch screen is fantastic in games that DON'T just try to use it as a mouse, such as Kirby, Ouendan and Wario Ware. Are all those games "gimmicky"? Probably. Are they fun, and perfect in that "pick up and play" factor that's ever so important for a portable game? Damn straight.

Iguanaray @ Aug 25th 2006 4:14PM

And about "The DS goes for little cry babies who's parents buy their consoles for them, and the PSP goes for adults." - Anybody who whines about games being "kiddy" and needs a PSP to enforce their masculinity isn't ever going to look mature, no matter how many gore-fests they play. Same goes for Nintendo fanboys calling Loco Roco, Daxter and "kiddy" or "gay". (oh the irony) Both DS and PSP have their kiddy and "mature" games, and they ARE mostly aimed at different people. DS is for people that just want new games for their portable, like Nintendo's main series and certain quirky, 'gimmicky' gems that pop up at times, and PSP is aimed at people who want a huge multimedia center on the go, and play updated versions some of their favorite PS1/2 games.

Player1 @ Aug 25th 2006 4:28PM

I am mature! I live in the basement and have NO CURFEW!

Maxwell @ Aug 25th 2006 4:29PM

If I wanted to see nerds shitting on each other's opinions, I'd go to the Joystiq main page. Instead, you lot like to go to the individual "Fanboy" blogs just to troll. Stick to Gamefaqs message boards. You kids aren't ready for the real world.

Iguanaray @ Aug 25th 2006 4:41PM

Actually, I used to live in a box before some hobo took it away. I now live in soil.

...It's not half bad.

pixelator @ Aug 25th 2006 4:59PM

I love how DS fans come in here (some, anyway) and rag on the PSP, then proceed to blame PSP owners for defending the system. Hypocritical, much?

Uchiha:
"You and 3 other Sony fanboys the only ones that are still in denial about the PSP's crappy little nub."

I even referenced the comparative inadequacy of the nub compared to a 'real' analog joystick range of movement - but it bloody well beats out trying to FPS with a stylus. It was true the first time when I first played a port of DOOM on a PocketPC years ago, and it's true now.

"Yes I know there are FPS games that work good one consoles but they have TWO analog sticks. "

So you're calling N64 Goldeneye & Perfect Dark crap, then. What were you just saying about having a minority opinion on something?

"Playing with one stick is crap these days."

Funny, because a joystick and mouse combo existed back then, as did stylus control on PDAs for FPS ports. And it was good enough 'crap' to garner a 9.8 for GE and 9.9 for PD on the N64. Those were at GAMESPOT, where they don't hand AAA ratings out casually and nobody but hypocrit fanboys like you looks back now and says 'wow, those were crap'. No, it's just another double standard that you Nintendites use with impunity, because you're so biased toward the DS and any other quirky thing Nintendo throws at you.

"You double tap real quick, move around with the d-pad. That simple."

It's also a pain in the ass. I don't like it. And yes, you have to scribble to strafe. It has nothing to do with front/back movement on the d-pad. It's a juggling act, end of story. Next.

"I seriously thing you need to consider getting yourself a pair of glasses or just stop being a fanboy. What looks better, a sleek, shiny, small machine or a big, ugly, monster" ... "they admit Wii is beautiful"

I didn't say the Wii looked BAD, I said it looks like a box, because that's what it is. A shiny box. You calling the PS3 a 'big ugly monster' - well THAT isn't biased or unreasonable, eh? You know, your problem is you probably read too much Joystiq where most of the bloggers love slamming Sony and 90% of the contributors are Nintendo fanboys, so you think this twisted view of reality is valid and somehow nonfanboyish, while someone who actually dares say the PS3 looks decent is somehow a raving lunatic fanboy. Do you see the irony? I doubt it.

squints:
"All it had was a booth running videos available on the internet for the past three months."

I haven't seen any of the vids posted from the show on the internet before now.

Iguanaray:
"I think it's sort of weird that some people here rant about the Wii and DS for actually requiring *gasp* hand and body motions to control."

I just don't like the stylus control for an FPS. Didn't say I hate it for everything, though I'll say the only games thus far I think really use it to any advantage can be counted on one hand. The Wii, well, I have my doubts but I'll reserve judgment until I try it myself. You know, something no Nintendo fans are doing for the PS3 (nor did they restrain their bashing prior to the PSP release).

I see what you're saying about DDR, but it's a bit of a stretch to compare that to the DS stylus. One requires one to actually do the activity (dancing) like Guitar Hero. The DS is just using a touchscreen to make up for a lack of analog input.

"it doesn't mean it won't get a huge swarm of original and great games later, either"

I agree, and if it does, I'll buy one. I usually do own all three, anyway. I had a Gamecube long before I had a PS2 or XBOX. I had a Super Famicom long before the Genesis or TG16 debuted here, too. In fact, I'm sure Nintendo will provide many good solid titles for the Wii - my question is, other than Mario and other licensed characters, what are we really going to get? I'm not doubting it, but it DOES look a bit cheap compared to the 360 and PS3. Small can be good, but when combined with simplistic and rather spartan in looks, it can be a negative in terms of perception. I could be wrong, it could look incredible next to the other two, but for the moment it just looks diminutive, basic and kind of in keeping with the low price rumors. I have other Wii concerns that aren't relevant, here.

Anyway, I also dropped the stylus with Advance Wars. That (plus Castlevania and the uberannoying Feel the Magic) really got me wondering 'is this fun?'... But there are some games that are, so it just goes to show that you can't judge a system by how some games fail to exploit its advantages properly.

Sorry about the huge reply...

pixelator @ Aug 25th 2006 5:52PM

One more note:

"DS is for people that just want new games for their portable"

I'd disagree with any generalization that the PSP is for game ports and the DS is for new games. I see a LOT of 'done that, been there' material on the DS - whether it's ports, sequels or remakes, the DS is big on retro gameplay as well as visuals.

Iguanaray @ Aug 25th 2006 5:53PM

Sorry, didn't put much thought into that post, but I'm just annoyed by the way loads of major developers just port old games instead of starting new franchises. The PSP did have some really good original games, but it was pretty disappointing hearing that, say, Disgaea and Gitaroo Man were just ports, and both have really good new games.

Iguanaray @ Aug 25th 2006 5:55PM

*both portables have some really good games
Jesus, my phrasing's been pretty terrible lately.

. @ Aug 25th 2006 6:01PM

Two spin offs and a pair of sequels to two pretty dire games accounts for PSP winning the show?

uchiha5 @ Aug 25th 2006 7:15PM

Last comment on this topic. Player 1 the only thing I was refering to is the FPS conrols. I don't get what made you even start talking abvout the quality games on the system.

pixelater, I might as well end this. The one joystiq on the N64 was the standard for console when Goldeneye came out so thats the reason why it got the good score. For the last freakin time you do not have to scrible to strafe. I may have overexagerated on the look of the PS3. Its not ugly but not pretty. Wii is beautiful. I think you fanboys are really just to insecure about you system. The PSP has a few good games and coming out with some good game. Same for the DS except the DS alreasy has more good games.

Also I would argue about why Im not a fanboy but no reason too. I've heard people call me a Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft fanboy countless times so I've came to the conclusion that Im a GAMING fanboy. Funny part is I don't even own an Xbox but people call me a Microsoft fanboy because I like what there showing for the 360. I guess I tend to root for a console a little strong in some of my arguments. Maybe the choice words that I use make me sound biased. Well I don't really care because Im a gaming fanboy and Im proud.

pixelator @ Aug 25th 2006 9:34PM

"The one joystiq on the N64 was the standard for console when Goldeneye came out so thats the reason why it got the good score."

Sorry Mr. Logic, but Goldeneye came out in August 1997. The Sony Playstation Dual Analog controller had been out since April of 1997. The reason why it and Perfect Dark got killer AAA scores was that they PLAYED GREAT despite having single analog. As one recent review of the game on Gamespot said, "First person shooters generally don't age as well as games in other genres. However, Perfect Dark is still a great game and great fun to play if you can readjust to the (beautiful and poetic) single analog setup."

"Also I would argue about why Im not a fanboy but no reason too."

God, your grasp of English is stunning. But we're in agreement, you have no reason to argue about 'not being a fanboy'.

"Wii is beautiful. I think you fanboys are really just to insecure about you system."

Unlike you, you mean. Because you're not insecure about the Wii at all - that's why you keep saying how beautiful it is and how fugly the PS3 is, or how bad PSP controls are. Nope, you're a paragon of security.

You dont need to know @ Aug 25th 2006 9:33PM

You can say that again # 20. And even though i so want to comment on what # 19 said, i shall hold it to myself so that this argument can end. People.......relax.

You dont need to know @ Aug 25th 2006 9:56PM

No.1 How can anyone say Wii looks ugly? I mean That game is the size of 3dvd cases stacked side by side. It doesnt occupy much space, very quiet and consumes very little energy when compared to 360 nd ps3. In other word s, IT IS BEAUTIFUL. (Rightly stated by uchiha 5)

No.2 I can understand why people think the ps3 looks a bit big, well probably because it is. But that doesnt give anyone the right to call it a "Monster". It just looks like a bigger version of a ps2 and that didnt look bad at all. The PS3 looks expensive and futuristic.

Everyone has a right to state their own opinions, but plss for the sake of some hard-core fanboys who practically "Worship" the console of their choice, use the correct word and dont be over exagerating. It pisses them off as you all can see. Alright now can we plss stop talking about this.

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