Virtua Fighter 5 moves to 360... so that explains it...

by Nick Doerr { Dec 21st 2006 at 2:15PM }

Remember when we said the screens for the PS3 VF5 looked fairly underwhelming? Now we know why. Making the game into a multi-platform title, SEGA probably had to cut a few corners. Not saying that's a bad thing -- good job, Microsoft, on acquiring a huge Japanese title -- but it kind of knocks out the "what could have been" for the PS3. The game is due out for the 360 some months after the US release and probably closer to the European release of the game. But if you've a PS3, why wait?

The funny thing is, SEGA always denied the 360 rumors and yet, here we are. With that in mind, are other "exclusives" that have been denied time and again actually true? Stupid PR. Metal Gear Solid 4 is an exclusive, but it'll probably be one in the same sense VF5 is -- for a good number of months. Other games who've rumored moving multi-platform, like Devil May Cry 4... should remain purely PS3-exclusive. Look at the history of the games for some fairly good insight. Leave us your theories, rants, complaints, hoots of joy, hollers of rage... whatever, in the form of a comment!

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Tags: Microsoft, Playstation 3, Playstation3, PS3, Sony, Virtua Fighter, VirtuaFighter, XBox 360, Xbox360

Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)

Wii360dsPC @ Dec 21st 2006 2:33PM

The Virtua Fighter PS3 screenshots aren't underwhelming due to the 360. As far as I can tell from the next-gen releases to date, the 360 has better looking titles. The multi-platform games are visually close with the 360 able to support better frame rates.

PS3 demand down @ Dec 21st 2006 2:41PM

So are you saying because the game is not looking up to your expectations it's the 360s fault!!?,face facts it's not looking great for either system,look at Gears of war that is using the 360 graphics, the picture you have shown looks more like a PS1 game and the news that the PS3 demand is down despite US stock is not looking good.
http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2006/12/21/ps3-demand-down-despite-new-us-stock-wii-still-keeps-selling-out-worldwide.htm
If I was a game developer and saw the incredible sales of Gears of war (around £80 million pounds in 6 weeks) and the success of the Wii would I now go PS3 exclusive ? I don't think so.

Joe @ Dec 21st 2006 3:09PM

Well I think this sucks but there is nothing that any one can say to make Sega keep this game only on the PS3. But because Sega did this they should make a new Nights into Dreams game for the PS3 and it use the sixaxis. But all is not lost at least the PS3 is getting Double Agent.

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/21-12-2006-4358.html

mietha @ Dec 21st 2006 3:04PM

Don't count on any non-first party exclusives any time soon, at least not in the US or Europe. It's just not a good financial decision at this point.

Frosty22 @ Dec 21st 2006 3:39PM

Nothing is ever Sony's fault. Nothing is ever the PS3's fault. It is perfect. It is the standard of which everything in the world should be gauged upon.

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah BLAH!

Dasgooch @ Dec 21st 2006 3:30PM

I get that this is a PS3 fan site but holy shit. You are blaming shitty graphics on that fact that its coming to the X360 months after it releases on the PS3? Get real. The only thing one can honestly take from this is Sega is seeing the trend of how well the PS3 titles are selling and hedging their bets and going multiplatform. Just because this is a PS3 fan site doesn't mean that you have to be complete Sony marketing asshats. Call a duck and duck man.

soccerdrew17 @ Dec 21st 2006 5:36PM

Idiots. The multiplatform games are made for the lower system. That means if a game can't look great on one then it shouldn't look great on the other. It also means that they have to make the graphics work on both, so the graphics go don even more from cooperation.

I'm very surprised that Sony isn't going after any Microsoft exclusives, because that would give them an advantage. Sony needs to get their act in gear (no pun intended) and work on the exclusive games.

Vince @ Dec 21st 2006 3:44PM

Inevitably the game will look shite when half the team is making sure it works on the 360.
Sega couldn't commit fully to one platform, they bottled it and will pay the price with portsville.
When developers stop pussyfooting around and commit to the PS3 then this sort of nonsense will be history and the PS3 will shine.

Pedro @ Dec 21st 2006 4:11PM

There are no american troops in Bagdad!
2+2 equals 5!
There are 5 lights!

Use that $600 you've got saved up to buy a clue. The screen shots looked undwerwhelming because they were done on PS3 hardware, which is not as capable as 360 hardware (what with the vastly inferior graphics chip). You got suckered by pre rendered video and now you are hit by reality. The game isn't even running on the 360, it has to be ported.

Cristhian @ Dec 21st 2006 3:49PM

The PS3 is having a relapse of the old Pioneer Laser Disc gaming days, its more for media (movies, etc.), than for actual gaming. I bought a 360 because there weren't any PS3s but if there were I would definitly get one, the movie experience alone is worth the $600, plus some gaming included.

ChristHian has missed latst PS3 news @ Dec 21st 2006 4:07PM

Cristhian, look at other links there are PS3s but no one is buying them, and as for movies on a console it's a big NO how many people did you know who played movies on a PS2 or Xbox1 ? it's just not done.

OH COME ON @ Dec 21st 2006 4:24PM

Vince,it really does look like you are clutching at straws, when this game was announced and they showed the graphics etc you were all happy that it was PS3 only,now its gone 360 as well you are all blaming the "SAME graphics on the 360 "CRAZY",you may have made a bad financial mistake on your game console choice but blaming the 360 for it is rather stupid don't you think?.

x silence x @ Dec 21st 2006 4:27PM

Well as a 360 owner I can say that I am looking forward to Metal gear and Devil May Cry... I don't really like those games though. It's really just to see the tears of jaded PS3 fanboys :)

Thomas @ Dec 21st 2006 4:56PM

I just wish a company would develop for the Playstation 3, and try to get all the power out of it. Sony needs to make it easier for companies to do that with software tools. Well I guess it's out with the old, and in with the new... I think sony wants new franchises on their system... overall it's not really a big deal that vf5 goes to 360, cause... no one likes vf5... I think xbox fans are just glad to get a great game and now they don't have to play that sorry doa.

PS360 Owner @ Dec 21st 2006 5:01PM

The game looks the same as the arcade version. Don't blame the 360 just because you are mad at the world you lost another PS3 exclusive.

hoos30 @ Dec 21st 2006 4:59PM

"There are 5 lights!"

Pedro wins quote of the day!

I was gonna say, "Another One Bites the Dust" but I just can't top that...

Snake @ Dec 21st 2006 5:45PM

Dam... if the ps3 looses any more exclusive titles then they are going to be in trouble.
I am personally weighting till around march to purchase a next gen system. Hopefully the ps3, but if it still sucks by then, I am going with the 360.

eljefe @ Dec 21st 2006 5:23PM

WTF wat do u mean by ppl dont buy ps3s! dude everywonder why is outta stock?! i mean theres already WEEKLY SHIPMENTS but i still cant seem to get one! ONLine or at retailers. acually yu kno wat, since there is so many ps3 flammers, im gunna go to 360fanboy/wiifanboy n start flamming over there! if at least 70 percent of 360-wii are in ps3 related stuff, BEING SO GAY!! hey i can do the same!! Cant u ps3 haters just go away, i mean dont u look at lk 360/wii news, or is it ps3 more?

Concerned Gamer @ Dec 21st 2006 5:28PM

It is good to see that not only Sony keeps reaching a new low week in and week out, but their lapdog website does as well. I am seeing fewer and fewer Sony zombies walking around best buy. Where are the games? Where are the frame rates? Where are the E3 game videos (pre rendered, not quite living up to gameplay? Btw since you are using xbox.joystiq.com as your source now check out thier comparisons of scenes from multiple plateform games, or brush that under the rug as well? What kind of mind game are you guys playing here? Btw guys the total is now three, I have actually found three PS3 demo units that are in working order at local stores in the tulsa, oklahoma area. Three out of 14.

What a joke this site has become. Thanks for the laughs guys. Just imagine what gears would look like on PS3 wow, lol. Probably as bright as Tony Hawk project 8. What happy game that would be. Gears of War 2:On the surface of the Sun.

Aex @ Dec 21st 2006 5:38PM

I've always wondered why ps3fanboy gets more posts from non-fanboys/haters than any other fanboy site. Anyone know?

Jonathan Greene @ Dec 21st 2006 8:11PM

HAHAHAHAHAHA,

I love it, the is a specific ps3 website, and yet the fact that soooo many Xbox fanboys are flaming the ps3 here just goes to show you they are insecure and scared for their own system. Oh and feel free to flame me, you all know it's true.

Anyone who says the 360 is technically more powerful is an idiot, even if the games look better that means nothing, no one has really coded a game for the cell before except for resistance which only used 3 cores. Please guys, get your act together before flaming a console you seemingly know nothing about.

jsn @ Dec 21st 2006 5:50PM

Why would you even post this on a ps3 site? Is the ps3 news so slow these days that you need to remind everyone that their 600 bluray player with a year old console attached is losing yet another excusive? Oh wait, not just an exclusive, but a HUGE franchise for the console.

here's my lock of the day:

MGS4 will be on the 360.

Devil may cry will be on the 360.

Now I'm just waiting for the rumor trifecta, Gran Turismo will also be on the 360. Though that one is the least important of the bunch, as racing titles are fairly generic.

Duscrom @ Dec 21st 2006 6:02PM

Feh, quit yer bitching, the Screens look like shit because they are. Screenshots don't do the game justice. I've actually seen it and played it, and Don't fret Sony boys, it's going to be worth it. Brag to your friends how they have to wait another 6 months to play it. Get your payback for waiting on Oblivion, Splinter Cell, Rainbow Six Vegas, Fight Night and Sonic.

The game also looks better then the Screens, as with shaders, it's hard to get a good screenie. But from what i can tell, save for some resolution issues, the screens look identical to the arcade. And remember, the arcade is running it at a silky smooh 60 fps.

Tristan @ Dec 21st 2006 6:24PM

Yeah, finally ps3fanboy.com is acting like a ps3 fanboy. Not trying to start anything. Why does that have to be the reason. The game hasn't exactly looked that great though it does look good it is no Gears nor Dead or Alive but still good.

Hoffer @ Dec 21st 2006 6:26PM

I actually read that the 360 version would look better. Something about the 360 version being based on the arcade C board and the PS3 version is based on the older arcade B board.

Microdot @ Dec 21st 2006 6:34PM

"I've always wondered why ps3fanboy gets more posts from non-fanboys/haters than any other fanboy site. Anyone know?"

idiots flock together. they see a post on 360fanboy, and all run here to post something from the pre-formatted list of witty parlays. it makes them feel better, and gives them something to do while waiting on their 360 to be shipped back from m$ after being fixed (again). its a sad life... but tis all they have.

i guess im the only one that doesnt give a shit. i wasnt purchasing the game to begin with (dont like fighters... mindless button mashers). call me when something important happens... like final fantasy, metal gear solid, lair, white knight story, motorstorm, devil may cry, heavenly sword, etc etc etc etc. if one of those heavy hitters goes, i'll be standing in line next to the 360 morons bitching at sony. til then, i dont much give a shit.

i do find it absolutely hilarious that less than several months ago, the game was "crap" in the eyes of the 360 fans... and now all of a sudden, its t3h gr3at3st g4m3 3vAr!!1!one HAHAHAHAHAHAHA so sad.

Vince @ Dec 21st 2006 6:37PM

Yes Aex, it's because they know the PS3 has endless potential, so they feel it necessary to downplay that fact by coming here, there and everywhere and talking crap.
See you next year xbots, (when you've bought a next gen console).

GamerJunk.net @ Dec 21st 2006 6:46PM

Wow this is really a fanboy site with comments like that. How does making a cross platform game hinder the development of the games graphics quality? Maybe Sega realizes that they won't be able to break even on 500,000 copies sold with how many PS3s will be out there by the release.

J-bot @ Dec 22nd 2006 2:46AM

The real problem is developer cost. People it takes a lot of "moo-la" to make these games, especially if anything wants to look amazing on any console. It just makes business sense to reach as many potential buyers as possible. In fact, I don't believe that uber-expensive games will remain "exclusive" except for 1st and 2nd party games. A sign of the times.

DSR7997 @ Dec 21st 2006 6:59PM

@eljefe: No, we can not go anywhere else the whole PS3 thing is like a real bad train wreck and we just can't seem to look away.

gsgfsgdf @ Dec 21st 2006 7:22PM

Can i ask why u (as in the writer) are blaming the crapiness of the graphics coming from the ps3 on the now-obviously-proven-more-graphically-capable xbox 360. Is it because u feel sorry for trading your house for your ps3 in believing that u can experience "the 4d world" (as good old Ken says).

I doubt SEGA or AM2 had decided to port vf5 to 360 until about a week ago. It is obviously a new development in production and i can guarantee the screenshots u are complaining about are AM2's best attempt at programming on the ps3 and represent their best efforts. It would be extremely stupid to dumb down a game so it could run on a provenly more powerful console (aka xbox 360) in the future. It just doesnt make sense.

Vince @ Dec 21st 2006 7:41PM

Well "gameaddict", if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black then I don't know what is.

Andir2.0 @ Dec 21st 2006 8:07PM

"20. I've always wondered why ps3fanboy gets more posts from non-fanboys/haters than any other fanboy site. Anyone know?"

Fear

JuanitoL'paja @ Dec 21st 2006 8:08PM

To soccerdrew17, you are wrong about that since games that came to the x-box in the last generation looked way better than their ps2 siblings.

And to Aex, there are just not that many ps3 fanboys anymore, you could thanks sony for that.

I was a loyal PS enthusiast until Microsoft started doing things better, like Xbox Live, now my 360 gets playtime while the ps2 ended up on ebay.

Sorry Sony.

matjet @ Jan 9th 2007 12:46AM

why don't the xbox-lapdogs just give up already. mgs. is. not. going. to. 360.
@ #9 what are you talking about? you've got things back to front. completely.
having this go to multiplatform with 360 is in fact a reason for its poor graphics. sit down, shut up and accept it.
microsofts constant lies can only be attributed to how their zombie followers got the deranged idea that the 360 has some magical betterthanps3 graphics chip.

now as for your claims of malfunctiioning ps3's, it has been found that the ps3 is very well built with actual quality parts. tech people has dissasembled it carefully and shown the effert put into making all the parts fit together perfectly and not overheat.
we all know the the wii console itself has not had any hardware problems, the ps3 has had no significant of pervasive problems at. all. that leaves the 360 as the only console this generation to be found cheep and faulty, causing common overheating ect.

dje7878 @ Dec 21st 2006 8:29PM

there are a lot of hardcore fighting game fans out there, and why bother hunting for a PS3 if you already own a 360? (that or casually stroll to the store to get one.) VF5 is probably one of the few quality fighters out there that the PS3 needed. now if namco decides to follow and go multi-platform with tekken 6 & soul caliber 4, i wouldn't even consider buying a PS3 anymore. another bad move by sony, they should have done whatever it took to keep it exclusive.

Vince @ Dec 21st 2006 8:45PM

Sony know the score, just look at how Phil Harrisons scalp doesn't glisten, he's not worried.
The launch falls back, you have a shat load of devs who need to make money, you say fair enough, punt it for the xbox aswell then.
That will be the last time they do, and they will wash their hands thoroughly and shudder like a hungover girl looking at the the man in her bed in the morning.
This is all about Sony's delay, business as usual will resume shortly.

oddNumber @ Dec 21st 2006 9:01PM

dang 360 fanboys are annoying! why do you have to come here and talk so much crap. the simple fact is the 360 is the inferior console. it uses a dvd format to play games for christs sake! do you enjoy plying Gears online with only 4v4? Resistance looks just as good and can hold 20v20. Think about it, the 360 is last gen. dvd formats hahaahaha

360=pos

if you dont believe me, look at the 360 forums and look how many have broken down.

Matt @ Dec 21st 2006 9:34PM

Well SEGA has to do something. When you launch 197,000 units, that isn't going to cut it for exclusives. Sony clearly doesn't have the clout they used to for locking in exclusives. I expect to see a lot more of this in the coming year as developers/publishers realize the PS3 is a failure.

Dale Dietrich @ Dec 22nd 2006 2:46PM

This is all very amusing! For years I suffered through crappy PS2 ports to my XBox. Yes, developers DO build to the lowest common denominator when they intend to port from the get go. As I said, I suffered that fact for years as an XBox owner.

While that may be the case here, I doubt it as VF5 WAS intended to be an exclusive originally and only at the end are they porting.

The poor graphics in this case, in my opinion, have nothing to do with porting and everything to do with the fact that the PS3 is difficult to develop for. This is the same fate that all launch title games suffered on the PS3.

No doubt PS3 graphics will get better just as graphics got better over time on the 360 and the Xbox and PS2 before them.

...Dale

Mitch @ Dec 21st 2006 10:04PM

In this case specs do matter. When FF and GT hit the PS3 the arguments will be over as to which system looks better. Fact is the 360's run on three cpu's, even if xbox is planning there next console it will have to be 2.5 times more powerfull(which the 360 barely is over the xbox) to even match the specs of the ps3. Also the console that the blu-ray is attaced to isn't a year old. The only compont that's avaiable is the RSX G80 chip, nvidia 8800gtx which was just released and it only has 768mb of memory on it. whereas the RSX has 1.8 teraflops of memory on it!!! All of the parts that the 360 was made with were avaiable at the time of the 360's release, which means that all you people that bought a 360 bought harware that had been out far at least a year.
The reason that sony has said that some games will be true HD like GT and some won't is beacuse of cross platform development. GT will use a lot more of the cores than a game developed for both systems. This is why they are going to release GT later next year there will be way over a million PS3's sold by then and it is going to blow people away.
Once the next xbox hits the market the might finally beable to make a cross platform game that will utilze the PS3, but untill then thaks to all you idiots out ther that spent money on a old system making it so that only exclusive titles will utilzse the power of our great system.

Steve @ Dec 21st 2006 10:38PM

Even the Gamecube has better gfx than the PS3 and errvbody knows it. It used to be an old wives tale, but now, thanks to the wheelbarrow, it's science fact!

Pedro @ Dec 21st 2006 10:46PM

Mitch.

I am not sure which part of your inane drivel to correct first (Teraflops aren't memory you idiot).

Dev after dev have stated that the ps3 and 360 are about equal in power. The ps3 has more THEORETICAL processing power, but compared to the 360, it actually has far less general processing power. Furthermore, the GPU is antiquated by the 360's standards. The Xenos GPU is capable of thinsg which the RSX can NEVER do. The RSX can also never reach its maximum specs, unlike the xenos.

The ps3 does have higher specs in most areas, but it lacks the prooper architecture to make good on it. For instance, it is severely lacking in memory. Less texture memory, less system memory (ironically, the 360 could make better use of BD than the ps3 could)

Mitch @ Dec 21st 2006 10:49PM

Steve normally I wouldn't comment on such a stupid comment but since I'm sitting here surfing the net wating till my wife gets home it's your lucky day. You would have been one of the people in this world that would have thought a VHS was better than a DVD was when DVD's came out becasue a DVD player was $1000. Thanks for holding man-kind back man! Your doing a real justice to society Steve, mabye someday you will be president!!

Z3r0 D3adly @ Dec 21st 2006 10:56PM

I just love the fact that the PS3 is losing, well almost all of it's exclusives!

Go 360! WooHoo!!!

Mitch @ Dec 21st 2006 11:10PM

Pedro man, i got a head of myself there what I ment was the RSX has the cell cpu to work with. But tanks for provin me right buddy......
"The ps3 has more THEORETICAL processing power, but compared to the 360, it actually has far less general processing power. Furthermore, the GPU is antiquated by the 360's standards. The Xenos GPU is capable of thinsg which the RSX can NEVER do. The RSX can also never reach its maximum specs, unlike the xenos"

Yeah it will when the games are developed for Ps3 alone. The Xenos(r71) only has 48 floating pipes for info to travel on the RSX(G80) has 128. 1.8 Teraflop is what the cell runs at you know like a 4600+ runs at 2.4 gigaretz. Like the 360's 3.2 gigaretz So what that means is that a games that are crossed developed will use all of the 360's power while only a fracion of PS3's. As far as sytem mem neiter have enought as far as I'm concerned, but they have the same. However the PS3 utilizes Gddr3 and the 360 dosent.
When a game that is develop for the Ps3 exclucivly is will also have blu-ray backing it, 50 gigs man that's alot of shit that needs to be processed. If you think they wont use it all you crazy. They said it CD's and you eventually had 4 of them in your game case. They said it about DVD's but next years CPU games are going to be 2 DVD's. So b4 you call someone an idiot why dont you firts see if they were thinking to fast for their fingers. Jackass!

Mitch @ Dec 21st 2006 11:16PM

Nice one tomitch, That's what I am a PC games that's why I can see which is the better one. My fifty year old parents bought a PS3 for themselves to watch blu-ray's on b/c they didn't want to buy a $900 blu-ray player, and they were excited that i could game at there place with there nice new trew 62"1080p T.V.. Fact is buddy that most ppl don't even own a HDTV so why would they buy anything less than a 1080p T.V. when they are buying one over the next three years?? I like you 360's guy's reaction to how these PS3 dudes fact you guy's to death. All you do is insult, never prove anything. All i can say is wait for GT HD it's going to rock your 360 to bits boys!!!! As far as your movie facts go resech how much the new star wars made, wage it against your own salary then tell me who is the failier. Have a good one.

Diamond Blade @ Dec 24th 2006 9:21PM

"Sega couldn't commit fully to one platform, they bottled it and will pay the price with portsville.
When developers stop pussyfooting around and commit to the PS3 then this sort of nonsense will be history and the PS3 will shine."

Someone told Catholic priests to dedicate their lives to Jesus, and the wieght of their sins would be lifted from them. See how well THAT worked out...

What makes you think Sega should put that kind of faith in a console no one trusts?

Matt T. @ Dec 23rd 2006 12:31PM

From a business stand-point, Why not have MGS4 and DMC4 on Xbox 360?

It has pushed 10 million console,especially in the US,where both series sell the best in the US.

I know you guys are PS3 fanboys, and I'm a multiplatform dude. Multi platform would help everyone....but Sony.

Sonic_extreme @ Dec 21st 2006 11:59PM

Another to MITCH.

Stop your nonsense of electronics. Who the hell are you fooling. Maybe your dog but definately not me.

http://www.nforcershq.com/article4459.html

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=27463

http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2005/07/11/nvidia_rsx_interview/2.html

Your a moron for thinking the RSX is a G80. damm sad
Everyone who follows PC's and consoles know its really a OLD ass G71 or G70 as the third link describes.
In the third link page 3 they even talk about HDR and AA which the G71 AKA 7800GTX can't do it at the same time. You will have to disable and enable one or the other. ATI has been able to do it since the x1800.
Page 4 then describes about the future. Unified Shaders, which the last time I read X360 GPU can do Unified Shaders. G71 or G70 as the Nvidia guy calls it, can't do Unified Shaders. Only now until the G80 which was recently release can. The next ATI card due out in FEB will also do Unified Shaders. So as of todays writing only 2 cards can do Unified Shaders. Nvidia G80 for the PC and the X360 GPU. "not to be confused as CPU"
You my friend live inside a joke. Period.
Instead just blah blah blah. Back up some of your statements.