Peter Moore pours gasoline on the blazing flame war
There's probably one thing more offensive than verbally slapping someone in the face and that's verbally slapping someone in the face while telling the person next to him/her that they have a cute shirt on. That's more or less what Peter Moore, VP of most things XBox, did in an interview with IGN. Instead of going over all the comments he made about Microsoft's strategy for the coming year (interesting in its own right, but not relevant here), we'll use the quote that will undoubtedly give Sony a real shiner.Moore is asked about what he thinks of the other systems and if there's anything he wishes the 360 could share with them. He responds: "The innovation that the Wii is, I'm certainly a big fan of. It ties in exactly with what Nintendo needs to do. And it ties directly into their strong intellectual property that is more youth oriented and more family oriented. The PS3, I really don't know what I would look at there that we're really missing. I look at the games and I feel really good at where we stand from a portfolio point of view. The online service, [Sony's] still trying to get it up to speed and there's nothing really there that I can really point to that I wish we had. You know, certainly the price point of the PS3 isn't something that I want to emulate. It's very difficult for me to point to anything there that I think we're missing right now." Hmm, well, I know that I certainly can't see myself to style my hair in front of the 360. Where's your mirror-ability, Microsoft? Yeah... yeah, take that.
To be honest, Moore is right, but he spins it like the PS3 has been out for a year. We're still building the PS-Store... so of course it's not XBL -- that's had quite a few years, backed by the knowledge of a gigantic company based in making internet-ready operating systems. We don't have a lot of games yet, but we've got plenty of titles coming by the end of March to get excited about -- coinciding with the European launch window. As for the price, we could argue that to death, but it's been done many times before, so we'll just shrug and say: "you give the options of adding stuff on, we give you everything in one package." Calm down, Peter Moore.









Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Lion @ Jan 29th 2007 3:18PM
How about HDMI ...
Arno @ Jan 29th 2007 3:27PM
Microsoft spin-meister extraordinare. Moore FTW!
Shane Killen @ Jan 29th 2007 3:53PM
Hard to point to anything they're missing?
How about a web browser? $50 a year for online should give you something more than just playing online that you can do for free on PS3, PS2, PSP, and PC.
Included next-gen DVD player?
Support for usb mouse and keyboard?
TRUE backwards compatiblity?
A free online gaming service?
The 360 is missing a lot and Microsoft is in no hurry to deliver them to their paying customers.
alijah @ Jan 29th 2007 4:03PM
Its not that anyone is saying that the PS3 has been out for a year. Its more like the PS3 had a year to be better then anything out there. No first party titles just 2nd party
Ted Nemeth @ Jan 29th 2007 4:28PM
Let's see..
HDMI
HD media player with not broken audio
USB
A DVD and Audio player that dont look and sound like garbage
Web Browser
How abour reliability?
A system whose fan doesnt sound like a jet engine...oh, I could go on, but you're not really interested.
Hired.Geek @ Jan 29th 2007 4:43PM
How about a web browser?
- Really you use your PS3 for the Web browser? Honestly I think the Wii and the PS3 web browsers suck.
$50 a year for online should give you something more than just playing online that you can do for free on PS3, PS2, PSP, and PC.
- As for this I partially agree. But PC gamers usually play around $20 for games like UNO and other casual games were as on XBox LIVE you maybe pay $5. And the extremely limited online game play of the PSP, and the nearly non-existant online play of the PS2. Second the PS2, and PS3 online experince of voice chat, game play, downloading, friends list integration are nothing that you really could charge for anyways.
Included next-gen DVD player?
- Yeah if you really want to play next gen DVD's on your XBox 360 you buy the Add on. If you are like the majority of gamers who do not want friends and family that they live with planting themselves in front of your player to watch movies when you want to play games, you do not buy the Add-on.
Support for usb mouse and keyboard?
- Check your facts, XBox 360 supports both Keyboard and mouse.
TRUE backwards compatiblity?
- This is the ONE thing that Peter should be looking at alot more for the 360.
A free online gaming service?
- Well maybe when Sony gets a service that is worth paying for, they just might start charging.
Thomas @ Jan 29th 2007 4:51PM
#3
lol that's tellin' em!
Just before the HD-DVD drive, MS rep(s) were in an interview where they admitted that they'd go Blu Ray if the market goes in that direction.
ps3x360wiiowner @ Jan 29th 2007 5:23PM
It's obvious that Microsoft did not integrated the HD DVD player in the XBOX360. They were not confident that it would succeed. Wise choice. As we can see that the Blu-ray is kicking HD DVD butt. Plus, Sony has a strong tides with Studios over Microsoft.
So, I bet they will have a blu-ray player, too.
t3enageloser @ Jan 29th 2007 6:29PM
#8
Really? Sony has strong tides? last i checked you guys have been losing exclusives left and right. and the ones that you havent lost yet are constantly rumored to go multi platform. really the only big games sony has locked down is GT and Socom. MS has been taking exclusives from you for a while i dont see how that is having "strong tides" with the developer/ publisher studios
Monstredepoche @ Jan 29th 2007 6:18PM
No brick, less noisy, no Red Ring of Death xD, All In One for a good price, 50go for games, no propietary Wireless for device, no Proprietary SATA HDD, Open OS with Linux(emulation,divx xD ), PS3 PSP fonctions, Retro PS1/PS2, PS1/PS2 licences for online Arcade, No proprietary Video file format, HDMI 1.3, Unified base for "all" PS3 owner ( HDD, Online, Blu Ray, HDMI ), Sony Pictures for content and VoD, Sony Electronics for compatible product Photo/Video/Audio, First party games in every genre SingStar, Wipeout, Killzone, The Getaway , Heavenly Sword, Gran Turismo,Eye toy games, God of War, Ico, Shadow of the colossus, Formula One, SOCOM, NBA/MLB etc.. and MMORPG with Sony Online Entertainment... and lots of 2nd Party franchise... Cell+RSX+XDR+DDR3(+HDD) > Xenon+Xenos+DDR3.. and "Playstation" ^^... Japan... Fidelity ? ( PS1 and PS2 were great consoles for their owners )
The PS3 is a good long term peace of hardware with cheap HDD, Blu Ray and HDMI 1.3, Bluetooth 2.0,linux operating system and unified offer for the masses...
extensions for hardware and online are good for hardcore gamers.. but not for a mass market product...
(sorry for my english )
Ciaran @ Jan 30th 2007 6:16PM
I can see myself quite nicely with the DVD tray mirror.. or with the vision camera plugged in...
Jihad @ Jan 29th 2007 7:17PM
Hey #10, clearly #8 was talking about movie studios, not game publishers
Arno @ Jan 29th 2007 7:22PM
But shouldn't a console be about games?
Thomas @ Jan 29th 2007 9:06PM
I wouldn't take this guy's comments seriously, he works for MS... of course he's not going to come out in public and say good things about their biggest competitor, and the only reason why he gives credit to the Wii, because they don't see the Wii as a threat..
All ps3 hate stems from fear.. he knows...
Monstredepoche @ Jan 29th 2007 8:15PM
#10
SCE America: Crash Bandicoot, Jak & Daxter, Syphon Filter, bust a groove, Twisted Metal, NBA/NHL/MLB games, Cool boarders, jet moto, God Of War..
SCE Liverpool: Formula One, lemmings, Disc World, Rollcage, Destruction Derby, porshe challenge, Wipeout...
SCE London: Buzz, Eye Toy games, Singstar, The Getaway, Eigth days, World Tour Soccer,gangs of london...
SCE Cambridge: Medievil, Primal...
SCE Japan: Ape Escape, Parappa the Rapper, Loco Roco, Ghost in the shell, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus,Gran Turismo, Omega Boost,Hot shot golfs and games that japan likes...
SOE: Everquest...
And there's 2nd party games... like Motorstorm, Ratchet & Clanks, Resistance, SOCOM, Killzone, heavenly sword, etc... and there's a lot of Franchise published by Sony... like Rogue Galaxy, Dark Cloud with Level 5... etc... these studios are independant but franchises rights are shared with the publisher.
And Microsoft has lost games too... like Ninja Gaiden, Splinter Cell... Epic is a third party developper... only gears of war is published by Microsoft... not Unreal Tournament for exemple... Capcom is a third party too.. even if lost planet is only on 360...Mistwalker ( blue dragon, lost odyssey ) make games for Nintendo DS...
I Think Nintendo is first with internal games for consoles... then Sony... then Microsoft...
Ted Nemeth @ Jan 29th 2007 8:26PM
Yeah, thats the great thing about the PS3 a console with games and an unbelievable HD Media player(check the prices for stand alone Blu Ray players)w/ an incredible picture and DTS HD Lossles Master surround. Not to mention the fact it plays regular DVD's and Audio CD's 100x better then the 360.
As for exclusives-Gran Turismo, Final Fantasy, God of War, Metal Gear Solid, Ninja Gaiden Sigma and of course anything SCE of America and Japan dream up, and since Sony has developed an exclusive development company, Cellium, w/Namco I expect to be seeing at least one hot title there.
Virtua Fanboy @ Jan 29th 2007 8:19PM
"But shouldn't a console be about games?"
Sadly but not anymore. Whether Nintendo likes it or not Video Game Consoles are going to be media hubs as well as game machines from now on.
matjet @ Jan 29th 2007 8:40PM
"The innovation that the Wii is, I'm certainly a big fan of."
Is that just a typo here or did he really say that and prove he can't speak proper English.
It's like ... ? that sentence doesn't make any sense.
And how is Nintendo only "youth oriented"?
red steel and z:tp seemed reasonably old to me.
Who is this anyway..peter moore.. oh
That explains everything. It's that jerk again.
Joop @ Jan 29th 2007 8:57PM
People harp on the HD addon for the 360, but I ask you...if the PS3 couldn't play BluRay movies (games still the same disc size, just speaking hypothetically) and it cost $200 less (same price as the HD-addon, making it the same price overall as the 360), do you think as many would be sitting on shelves as there are now?
I know I'd actually be interested in it, if that were the case. I don't really care about the hidef movie watching aspect, it's tertiary to games and gameplay/interface. But, Sony makes that choice for its customers, forcing the price inflation that comes with it. MS lets it be optional.
jlbachs @ Jan 29th 2007 10:26PM
"Peter Moore rose to prominence at Sega, being a big figure in the company's North American operations during the Dreamcast era."
That's the only thing I have to add since everyone else has covered everything perfectly. I don't think it's a case of history repeating, but his opinion based on current and past employment means little to me.
BigDog @ Jan 29th 2007 10:33PM
what some of you people don't understand is the fact that sony is the center of the media center or entertainment center, or whatever you like to call it. They said a long long time ago this is what they were going to do. sony is looking into the future rather then present. Also, what sells more then any game out there? MMORPG's do, and who makes MMORPG's...Sony does, so does blizzard but they have problems with updating things at the right times, there crap is crumbling already. Anyways, MMORPG's that sony makes are pretty hard to beat, EQ itself has lasted more then 6 years even longer and is now dieing out. "Vangaurd" is another TOPnotch MMO, Sony is making 4 different styles of MMO's for the PS3, one I think is with some other company and it's a marvel MMO style game, while another one is a shooter, and on top of that sony is probably going to split another department for a midevil based MMO exclusive to the PS3 console. I am hyped about all these MMO's that are going to come out by ether the end of this year and some for next year.
I remember Enchanted arms was suppose to be exclusive for Xbox and now it's not, also they are putting in more content on the PS3 version of "Enchanted Arms". Instead of making a huge launch at the beginning and selling good does not mean that the system will survive, I am starting to see more people that were loyal to Xbox and now they are getting a PS3. I myself have both and am very disappointed in the Xbox considering there were only 2 titles that made system and one was really overhyped.
Remember 6 months from now there will be more people with HDTV sets and most likely may get the PS3 for just that, while they have that they may also buy some games. within a year from now you can double or triple that perdiction with even more people getting a HDTV set, it's going to keep growing and with that the ps3 will grow as well. it's already growing right now, mabey slowly but it is, wait till a few ps3 exclusives come out or whatever and it will start rocking.
Sony has created a fantastic piece of hardware but some poeple are blind and do not see the potiental in that. Also there are games that you use the PSP with, formula one uses the PSP for a rearview mirror, I personally don't like that game but I can just see future releasing when they start to use this for things on the PS3. This is a machine that can do practically anything, accept making me sleep better.
$500-600 for this system is a fricken steal. technology like this should cost $1,000 or more. I can also browse the web on the damn thing. The web through PS3 will also get better in time, be patient.
Ted Nemeth @ Jan 29th 2007 10:48PM
I would say to anyone who says "I dont give a damn about High Def(Blu Ray)movies"-Have you ever seen one? On an awesome TV with full cranking surround sound? I dont think you would dismiss this capability so quickly if you had.
dex @ Jan 30th 2007 12:12AM
PS3>360.
Figboy @ Jan 30th 2007 1:31AM
hey Joop, I don't know what part of the US you are in, but in all the major retailers here in Los Angeles, the PS3 is sold out. Actually, I saw one 60gig in a Target two or three days ago.
They certainly aren't lining store shelves in a city as huge as LA (population close to 8 million now). I'm hoping there will be one in stock when I get paid in a week, as I'd like to pick one up for myself (I'm tired of playing on my roommates).
Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Yes, in some cities, there are PS3's available (though the internet would never admit that it is primarily because Sony is shipping units to stores at weekly intervals), but in the areas with the most dense populations, it's still rather hard to find.
Mogul218 @ Jan 30th 2007 2:58AM
Yeah I can really see you forking over a monthly fee for all those MMORPG's you're speaking of. That will be at least $50 month, and you bitch about how Microsoft charges $50 a year for a quality online service?
Zigzag @ Feb 6th 2007 9:29PM
All ps3 hate stems from fear.. he knows...
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scott @ Jan 30th 2007 9:25AM
Why do so many of you ps3 owners jump straight to the blu-ray player making the system so amazing? You all seem to have been brainwashed that since you got a cheap blu-ray player, you got an amazing deal! A majority of gamers do not care about blu-ray right now. And a 400 dollar cheaper blu-ray player will not cause gamers to go shell out 600 bucks because they're getting a deal.
And @figboy - I work in a fairly busy city, it's not a major city but it's close to Philadelphia so we get a ton of workers and families. All the retailers in our area DO have playstation 3's. I even work at a Gamestop, I checked our inventory movement the other day, we've sold a total of 3 playstation 3's since 1/1, had 1 TRADED IN, and had like 4 returned. Our district manager actually had to send us an email telling us to all the stores in our district to stop talking down the PS3, we have to get rid of them. But a majority of employees see the ps3 for what it is, it's currently an overpriced machine that truly is not worth it. I'm not saying it will never be worth it, a year down the line it might be the best system available, but right now it's really not worth the 600 dollar. You have one game that's decent, resistance, and that's not going to make people go spend 700+ dollars on a new gaming system. I worked at this Gamestop last year, we didn't actually have 360's in regular supply until late feb/early march, and the quantities were getting better around mid-january.
Xbox is doing fairly well right now since they've had a year out on the market, a solid game lineup, a solid upcoming game lineup, and the godly Xbox live service. Granted Xbox live costs 49.99 for a year, but most people can see past the price tag for the service their getting.
And I think the biggest reason people are continuing the buy 360's right now is the friend factor. I bought my 360 because two of my friends from work had one. I persuaded 2 of my friends to eventually purchase one. People buy 360 because their friends have them and they want to play with them. Not alot of people have ps3's right now, alot of people have 360's. Little Jimmy is very interested in buying a ps3, but then realizes that 7 of his friends have a 360 and they play together online like every night, which system do you think he'll go for?
samik @ Jan 30th 2007 10:07AM
"Xbox is doing fairly well right now "
thats why its not selling..despite being cheaper AND one full year of games!!!
"I think the biggest reason people are continuing the buy 360's right now is the friend factor"
How many Live subscribers till date? something like 5-7mn? versus 160mn last gen consoles sold, which means barely 5% of those people are on Live.
I think the first two lines give you away..another paid MS stooge eh? Slip in the standard misinformation..costs 600 dollars (nope..500 for 20GB), the emphasis on blu-ray (no mention of PS1 PS2 games AND free multiplayer)
Monstredepoche @ Jan 30th 2007 10:56AM
We are not all "little Jimmy"... I think there's more than 50% players older than 20 years old who buy consoles... I'm one of them.. so I take the console with games franchises I like and the hardware I trust the more for the futur... the more compatible with HD, with non proprietary HDD, non proprietary Wireless for devices, non proprietary OS , non proprietary video codecs...
I was very happy with the PS1 and the PS2... 6 years of fun with the first one... still have fun with the second in his 7th year...
I live in france... in november 2005 Microsoft has "shipped" 300 000 x360 for launch here.. the 21 december 2006 more than a Year later a Microsoft representative in france said : we're not far from 300 000 "sold" ... we hope to get 500 000 at the end of the Holiday period... ( what a joke xD )...and we have a 50€ cut price... 350€ for the premium.. for me it's not a good sign when there's no PS3 around...
Maybe the PS3 is not for little Jimmy but for big Jimmy... In 3 years maybe litle Jimmy will have a PS3... but for now it's maybe for people with great experiences on PS1/PS2 since 1995... older gamer... People who own a HD-TV or will purchase an HD-TV soon and like movies and not just "game game game"... People who wants quality hardware really made for HD media ( blu ray ) and HD-TV ( HDMI ) and futur of online distribution ( Free Online , Cheap SATA 2,5" HDD for everyone )
You dont win a mass market with subscription + Lego Hardware... with everyone using a different base of hardware/services... maybe we will see a 360.1 and 360.2 for the futur... nice "microsoft" touch for the console market...
The 360 has the same sales number than the Xbox in USA... and if it was'nt good before it's only good today because they were alone for 1 year... In japan it's worst than the Xbox... There's very few official numbers for the rest of the world... but I'm sure that "shipped" and "sold" is very very different for the 360 I see a lot of them in stores and I know Microsoft send them everywhere in the world so it's so easy to have big "shipped" numbers... I dont know if dead 360 are in those numbers too... I think Microsoft and Peter Moore are making a great job with FUD... and communication... lot of noise around Gears of War, Lost Planet, Halo 3... even if Halo is so far... Fanboys make the rest of the job...
I think in the long term Sony has everything to make the PS3 the better system for mass market. The 2nd and 3rd years of a system are important if we look at statistics... Time is important for Sony...The more blu ray win... the more the PS2 keep gamer... The more HD-TV market grow.. The more the PS3 will win...because price will go down...
Im sure that with PS1/PS2/PS3/PSP/BluRay/Online/HDD/Linux/Bluetooth/
HDMI fonctions and firmware updates it can beat PS2's 7 years...
Joop @ Jan 30th 2007 10:37AM
@24 Figboy,
I'm in Washington DC and I see PS3s in stores all the time. I've been trying to help my family snag a Wii for my cousin so I check often, and that's what I see. It's not just a hyped rumor on the net. I'm sure they are selling eventually and the boxes I saw this week aren't the same boxes I saw two weeks ago. But to be selling eventually, two months into a launch, while the competiton that has three times the shipment quantity is selling out the second the stores open...that's bad no matter what part of the country you're in.
And @22, HD movies are great. No question about it. The point isn't that they aren't, just that there are a lot of people out there who don't consider that when buying a gaming device. It's possible to ignore that option, and the extra price that comes with it, with MS, but not so with Sony. For people who don't care about BluRay, regardless of whether or not you think they should, that becomes a big, unavoidable, non-optional, con against the PS3 before even considering the games, which is what Moore is saying he doesn't envy.
TheSh0wstopper @ Jan 30th 2007 11:16AM
I cannot argue what this one likes or the other one likes or
this guy
hates. I can talk about MY OWN preferences. I own both and love both.
I bought both on launch and slept outside for both (360 for about 15
hours and PS3 for 2 days). I love my 360 for online and as far as
online goes it PWNS PS3, which is prolly why PS3 is free cuz i would
not pay for it in the state it is in right now. But PS3 "I FEEL" is
the better system. Some might say they dont want or need the Blu-ray
player but I love it. I currently own a 37" HD tv, 23 Blu-ray movies
and a nice 6.1 surround sound system and I am very happy the PS3
caters to my setup. Sure the 360 has an HD-DVD add on, but when I
watch a movie I dont want to listen to a Jumbo Jet engine in my room.
Also 360 has no HDMI port and that is a big difference in terms of
clarity in picture and sound (My TV does 1080p and yes I know the 360
has 1080p, but without HDMI it is found wanting compared to PS3).
People say it should be about games, yeah 2 generations ago it should
have been. But now with technology evolving the way it is it consoles
need to broaden. And for $600 I will happily make my PS3 the
centerpiece of my Entertainment center.
TheSh0wstopper @ Jan 30th 2007 1:18PM
Hold up boys, I got this one...
"How about HDMI" - 90% of people don't have HDMI, but do have Component, 1080i is acceptable. This is Sony trying to push TVs.
- Acceptable? I know you did not just use that word to make a point on nextgen systems. Thats like a Wii fanboy saying the graphics are acceptable. Sorry pal we are on NEXT GEN consoles. Acceptable last gen not now. And I have a HDMI port on my TV and so will a lot of other people who buy new tv's. Remember the majority of people are still on standard def and will be converting within the next couple of years and if you didnt know HDMI is becoming the standard. so thats one spot where 360 shows its age.
"Support for usb mouse and keyboard?" - got it, do some research before you spout stupidity.
- Oh yea they do have it. Hold up, but to do what with? surf the web? oops no browser. Play games? nope its not supported in games? hmmm so what is it there for? oh Novelty ahhhhhh
"TRUE backwards compatiblity?" - who cares, most bought next-gen toplay next-gen, not last!
-Dont you find it funny that Xbox fanboys main argument is "who cares, we dont need that". Its like cavemen saying "We dont need fire". You dont NEED anything but it enhances your gaming experience. Who doesnt have shoeboxes full of PS1 and PS2 games. And this is also funny cuz at launch this was one of the main points Xbox fans were attacking the PS3 on but now that its fixed its "Who Cares".
"HD media player with not broken audio" - Hmm, my HD DVD addon sounds great on my Onkyo Theater System, you must have a crappy Sony sound system.
- Can you hear your Onkyo Theater system over your Xbox360's fan? Oh yea and what happens in a year or 2 when the HDCP kicks in on HD Movies and the only way to get the full quality is through HDMI (if you dont know what i'm talking about look it up, VERY important point).
"The PS3 games are first gen, 360 are already second ge" - bull, Sony and it's developers had an extra year to work on games, I guess getting dev kits a couple months before launch and no online SDK didn't help!?
-NO, not bull. They are first gen games. So ur trying to say PS3 launched with 2nd Gen games? You Xbox fanboys kill me. No wonder yall like GoW soo much a bunch of tards running around with chainsaws and shotguns and little thinking going on, sums up Microsofts target audience and loyal fans.
The PS3 has lost many exclusives because systems are sitting on shelves. The 360 exclusives (gears, halo, etc) have sold much better than the PS3.
-Maybe they did lose a few exclusives like GTA (oh no actually that has been multi-platform, just first for PS), Virtua Fighter 5 (oh but that is still first for PS), Bladestorm (Oh yea thats a trillion seller waiting to happen, just like Romance of the 3 kingdoms), what are the other ones WORTH NOTING!!! Oh yeah Final Fantasy, the biggest franchise in gaming (oops no that still exclusive), MGS4 (oops nope thats still exclusive, save me from your banter of internet rumors till something is confirmed, Devil May Cry (see MGS4), White Knight (oops no Xbox dont do RPG's but i hear they might be making a FPS version), Killzone (not even gonna bother),Motorstorm, Lair, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Tekken, Socom, Ratchet, GT. Yep Sony aint got no exclusives.
But dont worry 360 fanboys you have Halo3, hopefully they make the story mode a WHOLE 4 hours this time.
Ted Nemeth @ Jan 30th 2007 1:18PM
No, Paul. My sound system kicks your's ass. Dennon and B&W 7.1 and pure audiophille referrence. You think your 360 sounds good, which it does for games, but the fact is the HDDVD does not support HD losless codec because of lack of HDMI handshacking for security. I have heard that the sound is messed up even in analog for the HD DVD drive. I have both systems and would NEVER play a CD through the 360, if you could hear the difference you would know why.
David @ Jan 31st 2007 6:43PM
Peter Moore is gay
Monstredepoche @ Jan 30th 2007 2:31PM
HD-DVD on 360 is a joke... No HDMI...no 7.1... no HDCP... and if the HD-DVD camp loose... It's over... It's just for film so it's useless as an high density reader for game...
And if you dont know Blu ray is outselling HD-DVD more and more every week... The HD-DVD might get in real trouble after PS3's European launch... In 2006 all top movies on DVD or Theater were from Colombia, Sony Pictures, MGM, 20th Century Fox, BuenaVista/Disney, Lions Gate.. and these studios are exclusiv to the Blu Ray Camp... And all electronics manufacturer make Blu Ray players but Toshiba... price will go down.. and then there will be nothing left for HD-DVD...
For the story of generation:
360 > COD2 + COD3...
PS3 > COD3...
360 > Graw + Graw 2...
PS3 > Graw 2...
Yes you're right... It's their first game on 360 xD... They never touch it before...
I play online on PC for free... and what's the most important thing to me ? It's to play online... I dont care about advanced communauty options as a main factor... Resistance is already a great exemple of voice tchat , 40 online players , lots of online mode, I dont need more... Im not an hardcore gamer 24/24 online... So this free access is very good for me... And if I know someone who never play online.. I know he can play sometimes with me without thinking of subscription...
And for game exclusiv... there's no doubt that Sony has better franchise... and well known franchise... in the 120 millions PS2... how much cares about Halo 3 :s... They want Gran Turismo, God of War, Ico , Shadow of the Colossus, Wipeout, MGS, FF,MGS, Singstar, etc... there's so much 1st and 2nd party games...
and to finish the Red Ring of Death is really a serious problem against the 360... and it's offer is way to complicated with subscription, expensive hardware extensions etc...
TheSh0wstopper @ Jan 30th 2007 4:14PM
"No HDMI or HD losless codec." - That will go away come November when the V2 360 comes with HDMI and larger HDD! I'll sell my current one and get the V2.
- And how muchy will that piss off 360 owners, get it right the first time.
wow, dumb reply since it's was the fastest selling console game, with 3+ million world-wide. While PS3 has no system seller.
- Actually no it wasnt, FFXII sold more copies and in a shorter amount of time, check the #'s.
IMO and many reviews, HD DVD looks better than blu-ray and that craptacular blu-wizard feature sucks, I've seen it at BestBuy.
- That might be because 1st gen Blu ray movies were in MPEG 2 and HD DVD is in VC1. But now Blu ray movies are also in VC-1 and MPEG-4.
And I have had 4 360's, NO LIE I SWEAR ON IT, Red ring of death me. Thank GOD EbGames offers the extended 1 year warranty
Monstredepoche @ Jan 30th 2007 6:25PM
"No HDMI or HD losless codec." - That will go away come November when the V2 360 comes with HDMI and larger HDD! I'll sell my current one and get the V2.
- lol... what a terrible futur for consoles and gamer if Microsoft introduce real hardware modifications so fast after launch in the console market... It's new in the history of consoles... how to transform the consoles market on a PC market... with so much different 360.. with HDD or not.. with HDMI or not... with xbox live or not... with HD-DVD or not.. with Wifi or not... It's a PC ? or it's a consoles with a classic unified offer ?
And for the HDD.. it's 90€ for a 120go PS3 HDD and 90€ for a 20go 360 HDD... Sony made a good choice with the non proprietary SATA 2,5" HDD...
For GoW... that's what happens when there's nothing else... Gears of War is the only real argument for the 360 in term of next gen game and power after 14 months... and it's just because of the UE3... UE3 that we will see in Unreal Tournament 3 on PS3/PC too... Graphics of Gears are War are so far from exclusiv...
And for the Red ring of death.. we all know someone with this probleme... even in Europe... It's a real big problem... more than PS2's one before...
bub @ Jan 30th 2007 7:58PM
People ask Moore what he thinks so that his opinion can be blazed about the internet as "information". I'm not sure why this ended up on ps3fanboy. We don't care what he thinks, and if we did it wouldn't be hard to figure it out on our own. I still find news that is ps3/sony relevent that winds up on Joystiq and other places but somehow still doesn't come here. Yet Peter Moore's comments don't matter, except to the "xbox360 fanboys" who are planted here to flame.
F @ Jan 31st 2007 12:22AM
Fix the scaling issues and I'll consider a PS3. I have a perfectly good 65inch HD 1080i TV. The PS3 is not worth it.
Noshino @ Jan 31st 2007 9:52AM
"41. Fix the scaling issues and I'll consider a PS3. I have a perfectly good 65inch HD 1080i TV. The PS3 is not worth it."
Then get on the wii60 camp, I assure you that their graphics will blow your mind [/sarcasm]
The xbox failed last gen because their gaming library sucked really bad....and guess what, it still does...they depend so much on fps's....that's why its only appealing in the US, meh, just a small hype in Japan, but I ll doubt it will last. so yeah, if you don't like fps's, why bother getting a 360?
oh, and that dude, Moore, a few more Halo's and he wont have more space for tattoos on his body
STEVE @ Mar 14th 2007 4:46PM
MS has been taking exclusives from you for a while
MS is not taking anything. This is simple math and not sony's fault!! You do the math. Let's say it cost 15 million dollars for a triple A game which would be close depending on the game! They would have to sell 250,000 copies to break even. Now would that be possible on a ps3 right now??? Not hardly. There isn't enough of an install base yet. Now as far as the last year that they made exclusive 360 titles, well lets see how many next gen game consoles there were last year, oh yeah there was only the 360!!!
So now there is quite the install base on the 360 so even with the ps3 out on the market there are about three times as many 360's in peoples homes than there are ps3's so the game companies can agree to exclusives for the 360 because they will make money on the game.
So going cross platform is the smartmest thing the game companies can do because they make a hell of alot more profit. Now once sony gets a strong install base then you will start to see more ps3 exclusives!
Remember this has nothing to do with beter hardware or favoring a system it is and will always be about money!!!! pure and simple truth!