Eternal Sonata trailer to please... if it really goes to PS3
We here at PS3 Fanboy remain cautiously optimistic about the ESRB website's listing of Eternal Sonata as both a 360 and PS3 title -- timed exclusive or simultaneous release, we don't care. Since the Sony consoles are stereotypically dubbed the role-playing, platformer, action, sports, strategy, experimental genre, whatever system (hmm, something seems off), this game would make a great addition to what's historically helped Sony succeed. Check out the trailer -- it's not entirely new, but a few gameplay snippets are more recent. Anyone speak Japanese and care to translate? In any case, the game looks great. Super smooth. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
[via Joystiq]








Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
kingofwale @ Apr 30th 2007 12:15PM
This game is so Wii-tastic.
how much does Namco plan to sell in Japan realistically with 400K install base of xbox? ;)
I see it coming on PS3 in 3 months (if not right away) and in Wii, PS2 in 1 year
and frankly if it can be ported to WII, why can't it be on PSP? I'm hopeful.
scott @ Apr 30th 2007 12:23PM
How much can any ps3 game developer hope to sell with under 3 million install base? 1 million copies of a game is almost unfathomable for an install base that small. 3 million was achieved quite quickly with gears of war on the huge install base of Xbox. Many developers have been quite satisfied by selling over a million copies of a game.
* Gears of War (3 million)
* The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (3 million, includes PC release)
* Call of Duty 2 (1.4 million)
* Madden NFL 07 (1.1 million in US only)
* Dead Rising (1.1 million)
* Perfect Dark Zero (1 million)
* Saint's Row (1 million)[52]
* Dead or Alive 4 (1 million)[53]
* Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (1 million)
* Lost Planet: Extreme Condition (1 million)
If any developer for ps3 plans to sell a million copies, they are gonna have to reach 30% of the total userbase, instead of 10%. Good luck!
kingofwale @ Apr 30th 2007 12:41PM
>1 million copies of a game is almost unfathomable for an install base that small.
yeah, Fall of Man did it. I'm sure they can do it.
since you're soooo great with Data and has unlimited amount of time Scott, Why not show us 1 japanese RPG game that sold 1 million copies on a xbox brand machine? ;)
scott @ Apr 30th 2007 12:54PM
I think that's the whole point of Microsoft paying developers to make Japanese RPG games for their system. Xbox is always stereotyped as shooting console, so they want to add more to the mix. Blue dragon will probably do somewhat decently over here, and then Japanese developers can see how successful making games for US can be, and will continue making RPG's for Japan and US. Japan gets more RPG's, sells more systems, US gets more RPGs, sells more systems. It's a win-win situation.
Microsoft is fighting an uphill battle in Japan, and everyone knows it. It's no secret that they're not doing that well over there, but it's not from lack of trying. They are going against over 10 years of Sony dominance, and the country's loyalty to Sony brand (it being a Japanese company)
But hey we could argue all day about differences between our consoles. I'll take a shot at you now! Why not show us 1 first person shooter that sold over 3 million copies on ps2.
kingofwale @ Apr 30th 2007 1:02PM
first of all, 3 million is very different than 1 million.
Medal Of Honour Rising Sun: 4.65 million
SOCOM: 3.44 million
there you go.
oh, as for showing Japanese game developer that it can be profitable developing games for xbox... well, how many copies did Ninja Gaiden sold actually? :)
Tyler @ Apr 30th 2007 1:05PM
recently was talking to a japanese friend over Final Fantasy 11 and it's the same over there, The only reason people arnt snatching PS3's off the shelves is that the price is too high.
If more games like this were to be released for the PS3, it would give them more incentive to drop the cash to pick it up. And when you have a choice between the PS3 and the Xbox..well I think we all know how that would turn out..
Both my friend and I believe its only a matter of time, and game library.
shase @ Apr 30th 2007 1:13PM
Eternal Sonata doesnt have the look of an "AA" game and "sure seller" in US or Japan. It will totally flop for 360 in japan and from news it doesnt seem MS is funding NamcoBandai on this (hence the now non-exclusive). I dont think the sales in US will recuperate the losses if it goes 360 exclusive and without MS backing they pretty much have to release on PS3 to help recuperate. Of course the port wont be that good since its 360 to PS3 but the fact that this wont be an exclusive will bring more PS3 owners and reduce 360 sales..
KillarClown @ Apr 30th 2007 1:14PM
i have a question for scott.. what does Bills ass taste like anyway?
Devils Advocate @ Apr 30th 2007 1:18PM
@ KillarClown
While we're waiting for Scotts answer, why don't you tell us what Ken's Ass tasted like? That is if you can pry yourself away from the buffet long enough.
Colin @ Apr 30th 2007 1:27PM
Ken's ass tastes like goat.
Devils Advocate @ Apr 30th 2007 1:28PM
@ Colin
Now, now...no one actually "touched" the goat. :)
shase @ Apr 30th 2007 1:31PM
i think the Gears party at a mousoleum is worse than some dead goat for God of war party. They are basically disrespecting the dead and i didnt read much negative news on that... guess whatever sony does have a negative spin on it..
rfom @ Apr 30th 2007 1:39PM
Gears of War: 3 million
console base at time of launch = 6 mn (HIT RATE: 1/2)
Dead Rising (1.1 million)
console base at time of launch = 4.5 mn (HIT RATE: 1/4)
GRAW(1 million)
console base at time of launch = 3 million (HIT RATE: 1/3)
So whats your point Scott?
Colin @ Apr 30th 2007 1:43PM
@shase...
Just being obtuse...I didn't see anything wrong with the GodOfWar (the only GOW) party either. All of a sudden video game nerds are all card carrying PETA members?
OrganicShadow @ Apr 30th 2007 1:47PM
Everyone seems to keep forgetting that units won't sell unless publishers put games on them. It's a sticky situation because the publishers are putting the heat on CONSUMERS by saying "why don't YOU take the risk with your money, and then we might give you the games", and the consumers is saying back "no no no.....YOU put the games on there and we will buy the system.
Pretty lame, but it's basically how it's working out right now. Funny how childish a lot of these big corporate game companies seem sometimes.
scott @ Apr 30th 2007 2:02PM
rfom, maybe you don't know how numbers work. You are looking at final sales numbers of games, while comparing 360 consoles owned when the game launched? What does that prove?
Let's prove how much of an idiot you are by using this example:
We'll use wikipedia's #'s
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (14 million)
***THIS IS TOTAL GAMES SOLD, AFTER A FEW YEARS***
I'll make up some completely random number to go along with your format.
console base at time of launch = 10 mn ps2s owned (random #)(HIT RATE: 140%!!!!!)
***THE 10 MILLION WAS THE AMOUNT OF PS2'S OWNED WHEN THE GAME CAME OUT, ITS A COMPLETELY RANDOM NUMBER***
Once again, why are you looking at TOTAL GAME SALES, but only comparing it to BEGINNING CONSOLES OWNED
scott @ Apr 30th 2007 2:05PM
LETS REDO RFOM'S NUMBERS, SINCE HE IS A COMPLETE MORON
Gears of War: 3 million
TOTAL CONSOLES SOLD IDIOT = 10 million (HIT RATE: 1/3)
Dead Rising (1.1 million)
TOTAL CONSOLES SOLD IDIOT = 10 million (HIT RATE: 1/10)
GRAW(1 million)
TOTAL CONSOLES SOLD IDIOT = 10 million (HIT RATE: 1/10)
Hmm which is more appealing to developers? Only have to appeal to 1/10 of the base to sell a million copies of a game, or appeal to 1/3 of the customers in order to sell a million copies? Tough choice!
scott @ Apr 30th 2007 2:11PM
OH I GOT ANOTHER ONE RFOM WILL LOVE, SINCE IT'S HIS NAME
Resistance: Fall of man(1 million someone said?)
console base at time of launch = 0 (HIT RATE 10000000/0)
RIGHT RFOM? THATS HOW YOUR NUMBERS WORK, RIGHT?
Luke @ Apr 30th 2007 2:28PM
@scott and Devils advocate
Isn't there a xbox 360 fanboy site y'all can go to?
Japanese oriented games to my knowledge have always performed poorly on xbox since most of the xbox base is American. Look at ninja giaden, JSRF, and otogi, all good games with poor sales. What's wrong with the xbox being a shooter console? That's what it is, isn't it? It would make good business since to make eternal sonata multi-platform in my opinion.
Colin @ Apr 30th 2007 2:30PM
Scott...
You're not making any sense.
Colin @ Apr 30th 2007 2:33PM
Hey Nick...didn't you mention with the hiring of Colin that you'd have more time to monitor the board...Scott seems like a good candidate to get redacted.
- Other Colin
AG23 @ Apr 30th 2007 2:37PM
@scott,
Quit trolling and piss off already. Everyday now I check out the comments and you seem to have a few smart ass posts under every story.
You apparently are an Xbox 360 fanboy, so why is it you are trolling at PS3fanboy.com?
Go play your "Elite" machine and quit trolling.
rfom @ Apr 30th 2007 2:42PM
Well scott you fell into the trap and proved how stupid you are
" How much can any ps3 game developer hope to sell with under 3 million install base"
To use your own sattement
"Once again, why are you looking at TOTAL GAME SALES, but only comparing it to BEGINNING CONSOLES OWNED"
hence it not 3 million PS3 NOW that matters
What matters is the PS3 installed base 2-3 months AFTER the game is launched!
So if say 4 million more PS3s sold by that time
PS3 installed base = 7 million
pawned!
ndoerr @ Apr 30th 2007 2:56PM
Scott has been blacklisted =)
Thanks for playing, Scott. We've also got your IP on file, so if you try to get in another way... we'll block that, too.
Devils Advocate @ Apr 30th 2007 3:12PM
@ Luke
I own all 3 consoles, & I have just as much right to post here as you do. I always take the Devil's Advocate position from any rabid fanboi, PS3, 360, & Wii. My post on PS3 fanboy are positive, unless it's dealing with a driveling, unintelligent, rabid fanboi such as killarclown.
What's the matter, goat isn't tasting so well today?
Devils Advocate @ Apr 30th 2007 3:14PM
Nice Nick, way to promote diversity and open mindedness. I have yet to see a Wii or PS3 fanboy blacklisted from their opposing blogs.
KillarClown @ Apr 30th 2007 3:17PM
Devil.. Ken retired.. *insert lame tasted like chicken joke here*
Devils Advocate @ Apr 30th 2007 3:21PM
Killer~
I know he did. I was actually sad to see him go, as I don't believe he is getting the credit he truly deserves. He did a tremendous job with the PS1 & PS2, and as far as I'm concerned, his only blunder with the PS3 is, -perhaps- thinking too far forward compared to the other consoles and their respective price points. The man, however, was a genius.
ndoerr @ Apr 30th 2007 3:59PM
@ Devils Advocate -- Excuse me? Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't happening. Fellow bloggers and I often relate how commonplace the practice is and how it should be done more often.
Cagalli @ Apr 30th 2007 4:05PM
Thank you, Nick. That guy was the most annoying troll ever.
Bangbang... @ Apr 30th 2007 4:58PM
@Scott
Damn dude, who pissed in your Wheaties this morning?
@kingofwale (and everyone else stupid enough to ask about sales of a JRPG on an xbox)
THERE WERE NO JRPGs FOR THE ORIGINAL XBOX! The xbox brand didnt start getting JRPGs until the xbox 360. and even then there are only two:
1.Blue Dragon: sold extremely well and boosted the number of 360 sales in japan from 2,000 units a week up to 20,000 units a week. Of course this didn't last, but it did happen.
2.{em)-eNCHANT ARm (Enchanted Arm): Sold like shit, because it was a shitty game. Sales were so bad that the game was ported to the Ps3, where it also sold like shit.
SO, history dosent have a lot to teach us about JRPGs on the xbox. Right now, all we know is that bad JRPGs dont sell well on the 360 and good ones do.
However, history does show that Western RPGs do quite well on the xbox. Morrowind, KOTOR1&2, Fable, Oblivion, and Jade Empire all managed to sell a million copies on the xbox.
In short, JRPGs are a new territory for Microsoft and thus far they seem to be doing fairly well.
P.S.
I would laugh my ass off is scott started posting from public places to piss you off. Scott when a little overbord (and got on my nerves) posting so many comments back to back, but censorship sucks.
Noshino @ Apr 30th 2007 5:20PM
"SO, history dosent have a lot to teach us about JRPGs on the xbox. Right now, all we know is that bad JRPGs dont sell well on the 360 and good ones do.
However, history does show that Western RPGs do quite well on the xbox. Morrowind, KOTOR1&2, Fable, Oblivion, and Jade Empire all managed to sell a million copies on the xbox.
In short, JRPGs are a new territory for Microsoft and thus far they seem to be doing fairly well."
You do realize that you are just using the "good" western rpg's, why don't you compare the best against the best and see that xbox people, as much as you wish, don't like jrpg's? it isn't a new territory for microsoft, it has ALWAYS been there, microsoft just didn't do enough like Sony did to push such rpgs. btw, blue dragon looks like an average rpg, so yah, heh, I would even dare to compare it to Rogue Galaxy which was a last gen rpg yet an amazing one.
"The man, however, was a genius."
He still is, as much as the Nintendo and Xbox people hate it, the man deserved to be respected, heck, even now you see the Nintendo ppl trying to hire him. I mean, no one would have taken the risks he has, that's why this time around I hate Nintendo and their half-assed approach with the DS and Wii.
"28. Nice Nick, way to promote diversity and open mindedness. I have yet to see a Wii or PS3 fanboy blacklisted from their opposing blogs."
Dude, some of my posts were taken out of Joystiq because I said something about Master Chief being so milked that soon we would see "Master Chief Extreme Volleyball" and "Master chief's Cooking Lessons", guess it hurt them on their xbox pride, oh well, all I know is that if it hurt them was because it was true :)
SKI @ Apr 30th 2007 8:32PM
"I mean, no one would have taken the risks he has, that's why this time around I hate Nintendo and their half-assed approach with the DS and Wii."
What's a bigger risk then betting everything on the controller input against the other graphical behemoths?
Bangbang... @ Apr 30th 2007 10:38PM
"You do realize that you are just using the "good" western rpg's, why don't you compare the best against the best and see that xbox people, as much as you wish, don't like jrpg's?"
What do you mean? The whole point of that long ass post was to put my opinion out there, and my opinion is that xbox people don't like jrpg's because there were no jrpg's on their favorite console. Im sure if Final Fantasy 10 and 12 were on the xbox they would sell.
I keep seeing people post "Why not show us 1 japanese RPG game that sold 1 million copies on a xbox brand machine?"
The answer to that question is 0, mostly because there have only been 2 jrpg's on an xbox, and they are Blue Dragon and Enchanted Arm. Although Enchanted Arm sucked (its currently on the ps3 and not selling any better), Blue Dragon was a hit. 80,000 copies of Blue Dragon were sold in the first week alone. Microsoft usually has to write XBOX360 across the chest of a pretty girl to get japanese gamers attention, but that week they managed to sell 80,000 of them an xbox game and console. If that's not a hit to you, what is?
http://kotaku.com/gaming/blue-dragon/howd-blue-dragon-stack-up-against-the-competition-221714.php
"btw, blue dragon looks like an average rpg, so yah, heh, I would even dare to compare it to Rogue Galaxy which was a last gen rpg yet an amazing one."
I have to agree with you. Blue Dragon looks like Dragon quest 2.0 and it doesnt interest me at all. But that doesnt mean that it sucks, because it might be a great game.
btw, "Master chief's Cooking Lessons" would be an awesome game. UmmmMmmm...those spartan knuckle sammiches are mighty tasty.
Time @ Apr 30th 2007 11:49PM
"Dude, some of my posts were taken out of Joystiq because I said something about Master Chief being so milked that soon we would see "Master Chief Extreme Volleyball" and "Master chief's Cooking Lessons", guess it hurt them on their xbox pride, oh well, all I know is that if it hurt them was because it was true :)"
LOL, I possibly couldn't agree more...the very same thing happen to me, although my comment about Master Chief was much more inappropriate so I really can't be to mad about it...........say what you want on Joystiq, just don't insult the almighty Halo
bootsielon @ May 1st 2007 2:10PM
Eternal Sonata will definitely end up on PS3. Microsoft would have to pay too much money to keep this exclusive, and the return would be very little. It's not like every RPG fan will buy an Xbox 360 that easily. Especially in Japan. Microsoft should have learned from Sony that this generation, you're pretty much on your own, and that all or most of the exclusives should come from your own studios, otherwise it'll cost you an arm and a leg, as its already costing 3rd parties to make exclusives.
By the way Nick, thank goodness you got him blocked. 1 gone (scott), 1 more to go (Devil's Advocate)
Anyway, if you're reading this Scott, get back to work! I didn't buy Gamestop stock to see you slacking and spewing moronic bullshit all over the net! I pay you to keep the stores clean! Now move!