25 minutes of Killzone 2 to satisfy your curiosity
by Nick Doerr 
{ Aug 25th 2007 at 5:45PM }
It's a gigantic Killzone 2 developer walk-through! The above video is incredibly long, as you could have probably deduced from our subject line -- about 25 minutes. You get a little more backstory into the game, but the real impressive part of this alpha build footage is the freezing of the camera and getting to check out the level the same way the devs get to look at it. This isn't really a gameplay demo, but more of a showing of what's behind the curtain and we greatly appreciate it. We can't wait to see this game get further along production, possibly to the point of a demo. That would be swell, Guerrila Games! If you really dig this video, you can download it and show it off to your friends if you'd like.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Farmz @ Aug 25th 2007 6:25PM
Looks like a lot of fun.
Toby @ Aug 25th 2007 6:29PM
I love how chaotic the world is in this.
DownwardMonkey @ Aug 25th 2007 6:46PM
When the player pulls down behind cover and is given orders over a map... WOW!
DownwardMonkey @ Aug 25th 2007 6:49PM
Haha my comment looks very sarcastic, I didn't mean it to be. What I mean to say is the way the faces move and the battle goes on around you, brilliant. It looked amazing.
captaingamer @ Aug 25th 2007 7:17PM
Alijah do you own a PS3? What's with the Halo reference at the end of your comment. Are you a fan boy? This game is by far the best looking game I have ever seen and it's only in the Alpha stages. The game is being shown on a kit.
Do you understand the streaming issue??????
You are way out there!
secret @ Aug 25th 2007 7:23PM
Alijah, we didn't ask you to come here. We think you fit in better at 360 terrorist.com. In case you haven't noticed, we don't want you here....
secret @ Aug 25th 2007 7:25PM
Alija a.ka. osama bin laden terrorist, xbox360 druggie cocaine snorter
Token @ Aug 25th 2007 7:28PM
Why, why! Why do 360 fanboys come over to PS3fanboy and trash talk the PS3?! Same goes for over there. Listen you you nut sucking fanboys, Halo 3 ≠ Killzone 2. They are different games with different themes. For fuck sake, Bungie met the Killzone 2 devs and they got along. I quote from the Bungie podcast "We met the Killzone 2 devs and they were pretty cool. They said 'Hey guys, we never said Killzone 2 was a Halo killer'". Enough said.
DownwardMonkey @ Aug 25th 2007 7:33PM
er... Why does that smell fishy? What he said made perfect sense for a pre-alpha game.
secret @ Aug 25th 2007 7:39PM
Nobody believes you or your rhetoric, Alijah and other xbox drug addicts. The proof is right in front of us. Killzone 2 and Grand Turismo 5 will permanently close the doors on this graphics debate. And you're staying outside in the rain, still trying to convince people to buy the xbox360. But why? There is nothing good about the XBOX360.
Also, we're not spending YOUR money. So what's your purpose anyways for promoting the xbox? This is a fansite for PS3 owners. What the hell are you doing here? Why don't you just move back to the 360 wonderland that's so great and enjoy your life and let these people enjoy their hard earned money. Stop trying to ruin their vacation and picnic. It's their time off and let them have their fun, you bastard. Unless that's how you have fun, by skinning cats and dogs and dressing up as a woman with lipstick smeared all over your face like some middle east terrorist nutcase. GET OUT OF HERE, we don't want you near our children, our schools, or our community. Stay away. Or we'll call the cops.
Darkdrium777 @ Aug 25th 2007 7:46PM
I don't like the 720p at the beginning. 1080p please, 720p only games is ridiculous... :/
secret @ Aug 25th 2007 7:47PM
Also, if you're trying to promote the xbox360, you're backfiring. Like many people in here, we're sick of you and, therefore, we're now sick of the xbox360. In fact, now, when I look at the xbox360, I really look down on it as a low character machine and think of it the same way I think of you and the other 360 people. I'm disgusted. And I won't buy any machine that I'm disgusted of.
mat parker @ Aug 25th 2007 7:57PM
I'm gonna say three things:
1. Killzone 1 killed this series as a 'Halo-beater'.
2. This games looks awesome
3. Strikes me as COD meets HL2.
captaingamer @ Aug 25th 2007 8:01PM
Listen, All you 360 fan boys. Once you get the red ring of death, because you know it's a matter of time till you do, go out and buy a PS3. I own both systems and they are both great, but the PS3 is by far the most powerful. Killzone 2 is by far the best looking game and it seems to play as good as it looks. Crysis is a completely different game and at times does not look so hot. I agree it one hell of a good looking game, but we are talking console. And by the way, if you are blind I forgive you, but this looks pretty damn close to the E3 trailer. So long red ring group!
Andy @ Aug 25th 2007 8:04PM
Thanks for putting up the video. Usually IGN is my go to source for videos but they only had 2.5 minutes of it.
Andy @ Aug 25th 2007 8:11PM
I hope you can pause the game and control the camera like that. I loved that feature in Motorstorm(with bitz flying everywhere) and I could be really great to do look above the ground level to see where you need t o go.
I hope they have a timer that tells you how long you have to wait so you can get up and stretch or get some water.
captaingamer @ Aug 25th 2007 8:29PM
Alijah, you are a total numnut! IGN, Game Head and Gametrailers all say it comes so close to the 05 trailer. To you watch G4 TV. You want a side by side video!!!! Go to gametrailers and IGN.. It's there you useless waste of skin!!! You love to make sh1t up. Fan boys do!
DownwardMonkey @ Aug 25th 2007 8:58PM
I really don't know why all the 360 ranters are going on about Bioshock. I picked up the game for my PC, ran everything on full and thought "wow... this looks... okay... and plays... alright". I really don't see what all the ranting is about.
captaingamer @ Aug 25th 2007 9:23PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/1668.html
Go down half way from the link above and you will see it. You my friend are close minded. To say Killzone 2 is crap bla bla bla. Like I said I own both systems and think they are great. You are the one bashing a game because it's amazing and on the PS3. Scroll up this page and go to the BBC link. It's titled "BBC hails Killzone 2 as the most immersive experience ever" You can also read articles at gamespot and download game head.
I think this says it all. I just hate people that try to start trouble. Oh and if you are lost xbox.joystiq.com here you go.
Cheers and have a great night.
captaingamer @ Aug 25th 2007 9:37PM
Ok, you are entitled to your opinion. But I don't see how this is not close. It looks like it to me. The journalists think so, they say it plays great. You have to remember also you are watching footage from a cam and it's alpha. It's pretty bad when Alpha footage blows away Halo 2 and GOW, but looks as good as Crysis.
I am excited for this game and COD 4.
captaingamer @ Aug 25th 2007 9:40PM
You are the noob!
IF IT IS STREAMING THEN DON'T SAY THE 2 GIG LEVEL IS ALL READY THERE. READ AND LISTEN NOOB
Do you understand development!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have been gaming way before you were even itching your daddy's pants! You are something special.
miglaugh @ Aug 25th 2007 9:41PM
3 actual comments about the video and 20+ comments about fanboy drama. UGH!!!
That engine looks pretty nasty if you ask me. Doesn't matter that it's dark. The planet is obviously not that "light" of a place so it looks like they capture the atmosphere quite nicely... When they do have a lot of light in an area, everything really pops which is sweet. I also really dig the lightning, BZAAAPP!! Environment destrucion++
Some of the parts looked a bit linear so that worries me a little bit, but they did mention quite a bit about flanking, so i'm sure it'll be alright. Gotta love the chance to sneak around a corner to bash some helghast in the back of the dome. How's that for a physics impulse?
How come there is no damsel in distress to save? haha. Or some badass alyx type character? I'm not gunna care too much about making sure a buddy doesn't get all capped up (unless it means "failed")... In HL2, I wanted to protect alyx, where as it's usually just a pain in the ass part of most games.
About the fanboy drama don't take it so seriously guys... they only come here to get you worked up and they are really good at it by the looks of it.
The1 @ Aug 25th 2007 9:44PM
Finally, a game I will buy for my PS3. BTW, I hope people stop comparing consoles and say this and that about the Wii or X360. I am a gamer and I just want to play. You babies need to GROW the HECK UP!
ruibing @ Aug 25th 2007 10:39PM
This was amazing for such an early version. This and Haze are gonna be the main FPS for PS3 for me. I can't wait for them to come out.
Every time some 360 fan come, its always the same comments "360 FTW" or "Halo 3 FTW", makes me feel its getting to a point that this is their own response anymore.
JayD-1K @ Aug 25th 2007 10:38PM
wow the game looks good! cain't wait to play it!
with that let me get this out of the way:
XBL-JayDF 1K, PSN-JayD-1K. alijah...knock it off! you (and a few others) realy give 360 fans a bad rep! if you dislike what you are hearing/reading than either don't post or come to the site!
i visit both sites, and i see more 306 fans here than i do there! if you belief that OUR 360 and games are so great post on that site. the PS3 fans and i here will post about what WE are waiting to play on OUR system!
for the rest of us....why is this engine not out in the open? i mean, if they are having this much success with it than, lets hope other devs (like Valve) see this use it! it can only help!
MYPS3KilledMy360 @ Aug 25th 2007 11:21PM
like most people have been saying KZ2 and GT5 are there to forshadow whats in coming in the future. Sony wants to make you think "O if they could do this in the first year and a couple of months what will they have for me in the next 6 years(im saying 7 years instead of 10 seams way too long)". like i said on 360fb.com dont take the name of the site to heart jostiq was nice enough to make sites that your able to find news that interests you at the moment without swimming through crap you dont want. i dont want to swim through wii crap i just want my PS3 news or just my 360, sure some of the topics take shots on the othesr but usually its true maybe more like 90% of the time true. cool its good to give your opinion but have something to back it up and willing to have an open mind but if your clearly not interested in buying the console or have it but dont like it why F are you here.
sicklesdawg @ Aug 25th 2007 11:36PM
LOL Alijah how much does Gates pay you.
Popfrogs @ Aug 26th 2007 12:16AM
Ok guys, I know this will shock you, but I just sat through the whole video and have comments about it.
1. The game world looks incredible. With the destructible environments, world weapons (like the gas can that flips around before it explodes, nothing new but well done), lighting, and environmental effects...it just feels like a hostile world.
2. The hitching is the dev box pausing to load the levels. I imagine the dev box is a PC of some sort, and if they haven't implemented streaming (which is what game developers usually do *last*), you can expect it to pause to load. At least once the commenter says he really needs a PS3 to run it on.
3. The level of detail, even in a crappy video, looks pretty amazing. Everything looks bump mapped and dirty, which is what you'd expect on a war-torn planet with this kind of weather every day. Watch when the dev is walking down the stairs and shoots the table once. The table stays together (which it probably would in real life) but splinters across its surface in 8 directions from the bullet hole. If the physics are accurate, I bet if he would have shot it with one more bullet, the table's surface would collapse. This is very similar to what Lucasarts is doing with their engine and materials collection, and it rules. This type of stuff is really next-gen and requires massive horsepower to pull off.
4. The scene where he's fighting the "heavy" (which Gabe Newell did the motion capture for) is funny. It reminded me of Punch Out! on Nintendo where each boxer had a specific weakness that unlocked his defense. Shoot in the head, he turns around, shoot the glowing red box FTW. That's fun and funny to me, and really pays homage to old Konami shooter games.
All in all, this game is shaping up to be incredible. I never played the first KZ, and the one on the PSP is pretty fun, but...I honestly don't think I've seen an FPS get so many things right this early.
Spherical @ Aug 26th 2007 3:15AM
@ Alijah...
Seriously would you please F*&K off! You are the perfect example why I'm seriously thinking about getting rid of my 360... Who wants to be put into a category such as you?
Idiot
Ste @ Aug 26th 2007 7:40AM
Alijah, you're an embarrassment to 360 owners everywhere. :(
The game does look fairly good so far, and there was nothing incorrect or questionable in what the Devs said.
railven @ Aug 26th 2007 9:33AM
@Alijah
I think you guys are attacking Alijah the wrong way. He made two uneducated statements and its up to us to correct him.
1. The game is dark, makes it easier to render.
That is not true in its entirety. If the game had a fog (ala Silent Hill) yes since it would decrease the need for a draw distance. But because it is dark, mostly lighting dark not texture dark, ala Doom 3 it would require more work from the CPU/GPU and graphics engine to render shadows, lighting flares, and etc. If you think Doom 3 and its engine is a cake walk, try running it on your PC with Ultra Settings and AA at full, you'll be praying for +30FPS. So no, using "dark" isn't a benefit.
2. The streaming issue.
You need to understand what streaming is. Streaming is a technology that has been used by PC games for years. The real term is called "buffering." Streeming is the new hip lingo. Streaming/Buffering has nothing to do with BluRay. The devs showed one level and claim it to be 2GBs. So imagine if the game consisted of at least 12 levels, thats 24GBs in just textures etc etc. So that warrants the need for BluRay. As for streaming/buffering there is no system I know of available to the consumer that can load +2GBs of plus data (but 64bit applications are getting there finally breaking the 2GB barrier) on RAM. They need to prefetch it (ala buffering/streaming). So when you enter a room the hardware only loads what you need the rest is kept on the disc (I hope they use the hard drive for this to decrease all loading times.)
So room A of section 1 (section 1 being a total of 2GB) is only 500MBs. The system loads that to the RAM so that it is running upfront. When you enter room B, another 500MBs, it will "stream" the data as you enter and cache part of Room A. So in between transition you have parts of Room A and parts of Room B but not all at once.
I believe I got that right, its been five years since I graduated college and technology has changed a shiz load.
Popfrogs @ Aug 26th 2007 10:35AM
Guys, stop feeding the troll.
konajinx @ Aug 26th 2007 11:17AM
Looks like shit. Sure to be another big "system seller" like that megaton hit Motorstorm was...
DownwardMonkey @ Aug 26th 2007 11:42AM
So so so so bored of this sort of posting. I got sick of the Sonic/Mario crap when I was a kid and it's just as lame now. I (AS IN ME, JUST ME) think this will be a great game, I (AS IN ME, JUST ME) am looking forward to this game very much, I (AS IN ME, JUST ME) own a PS3, I (AS IN ME, JUST ME) don't care if someone owns a X360 and thinks the PS3 is crap. You wanna go play your X360, go play it. I happen to personally think the PS3 has a much better starting run of games than the X360 ever had and the Wii's current games are frankly a joke so I really am not seeing where people think they have room to throw stones.
railven @ Aug 26th 2007 11:42AM
@Alijah
Cinematics have a different color tone and saturation then a graphics engine.
Just think of all the cutscenes for just about any game. The Cinematics have a higher color saturation, that doesn't imply anything.
The fact that the game is "darker" doesn't mean anything.
And for anyone to compare a pre-rendered cinematic to an actual rendering engine is just plain ignorant. It's like crying when you see Final Fantasy's X cinematics then the actual game play engine.
PhillyVu @ Aug 26th 2007 1:34PM
this place needs some admins pretty bad.
great looking presentation. Can't wait to buy it.
Thanks ps3fanboy for not making me go to the gamespot site.
Uh, to say again. This place needs some mods or admins.
Or if we all just make a general agreement to just ignore the negative comments.
Apple Fanboy @ Aug 27th 2007 3:58AM
Token
"Why, why! Why do 360 fanboys come over to PS3fanboy and trash talk the PS3?!"
For the same reasons PC users troll Mac users...they're envious little cock suckers and want to rain on your parade.
Don @ Aug 26th 2007 4:22PM
This game looks unbelievable. It looks graphically better than any console shooter I've ever seen. I hope the gameplay is as good as the look of the game. By the looks of it, it will be.
Tormak @ Aug 26th 2007 4:59PM
This is my first time here, I don't normally reply to posts, and let me say I own a wii, but I played gears of war on 360 and thought it was the best game I'd ever played. That said, this looks to be shaping up to be as good as or better than gears of war. (I've often wondered though if gears of war was so short because of the limitations of the dvd disk.) Anyways, I've watched the halo3 trailer that all of the pro 360 kids seems to be hollering about and honestly it doesn't look that great. This trailer is much better in my opinion, which I think is pretty objective as a 35 year old who doesn't own a 360 or ps3, and no, I'm not buying either of them. (Though I may reant a ps3 for a week when this comes out.)
Jay @ Aug 26th 2007 7:04PM
Alijah, your girlfriend is cheating on you. Or your boyfriend.
Sarapion @ Aug 26th 2007 7:53PM
Why is everyone so hostile towards other systems?
Hell i could see people getting worked up about politics or something more important, but think about it. they are only game systems. Just because somebody makes a pro xbox comment don't go attacking somebody over it. Every system offers something unique.
Darko @ Aug 26th 2007 9:06PM
I'm not a fan of the characters... I liked the ones in the original E3 trailer better. And I'm still not as excited as I was when I saw the original trailer. Had to be said, but hey thats just my opinion.
Frank Jones @ Aug 27th 2007 2:02AM
I don't understand how anyone can be praising this. This is exactly the same thing they did with killzone 1, they show pre built footage, not actual gameplay. Killzone 1 was absolutely terrible, and it was overhyped.
Just like Killzone 1, Killzone 2 is extremely hyped, let's hope it doesn't dissapoint.
Also, take a look at all the overhyped games that have been coming out: Heavenly sword (terrible reviews), Lair (terrible reviews), Warhawk (terrible reviews)
And this.
Don't get me wrong, I like Sony, but I have a feeling this is going to another decent game, not a great game.
Don @ Aug 27th 2007 3:49AM
Frank, I don't know what you're talking about? It looked to me that they were showing actual gameplay. The first one got knocked for a few glitches plus bad A.I. From the looks of this video, they have worked out those issues and the A.I. looks to be top notch. It looks like the developer put as much as they could into this game and I don't see how you or anyone else can knock it. As far as your bad review case against those other games, let me ask you this, how long did it take the 360 to get its first true killer title?
AKuMA_G0 @ Aug 27th 2007 6:26AM
what guerilla needs to add on this game is a bundle that comes with a plastic, life-like rifle(ie Time Crisis)
since they want this game to be more of a real-life shooter, then they might as well throw in a rifle (M4 or M16 etc) with it's own SixAxix motion and a rumble FTW.
when you hold the plastic rifle forward, it'll aim then shoot.
if you hold it in port arms or aiming down, then you're either running or taking cover.
when you take out the plastic magazine, then it'll reload.
if you tilt the rifle to left or right while on cover, then it should go to shooting-cover just like on the trailer.
the plastic rifle should be able to handleother weapons even the rocket launchers with ease.
heh @ Aug 27th 2007 11:30AM
LOL!
360 fanboys are shaking in their boots,just by looking at the comments. So,after Halo 2.5 you guys are gonna jump to Sony's ship? Hilarity.
DownwardMonkey @ Aug 27th 2007 12:22PM
Rubbish Alijah, you started your post by calling the devs lairs and end your post with "Halo 3 FTW". What did you expect? A warm welcome? Your points about the devs lying holds no ground to anyone that knows anything about how buffing works.
dunnypop @ Aug 27th 2007 12:36PM
This game looks amazing. Not sure how it will play, but wow I am very impressed.
I own a 360, a ps3 and a wii. I'm not a fanboy of any sorts, but a gamer. This game will definitely be my first ps3 game purchase. Wow!
Don @ Aug 27th 2007 1:44PM
Alijah Green, if you want to consider Gears a killer app, cool. With Sony's line-up this fall, to automatically assume that a killer app won't derive from one of those titles reeks with fanboyism.
Once again, if you want to consider Gears a killer app and all, personally I have a great time playing Resistance. Sure Gears is better graphically, but Resistance has a great campaign mode that last quite a bit longer. Resistance also has an over the top online experience battling up to 40 players in one game, that's fucking crazy. You can say what you want about Gears being a killer app, but I put Resistance up there and that's a launch title, a fucking LAUNCH TITLE!
I know, without a doubt, that I got my $60 worth out of Resistance. Hell, I'm still addicted to the online multiplayer, did you get the same worth out of Gears? Resistance's lasting appeal is some of the best I've ever played on a console. If Killzone 2 can be anywhere close to Resistance as far as game play and an online experience, this will be a beautiful game, especially with the graphics of Killzone 2.
Don @ Aug 27th 2007 3:44PM
Alijah, I just went back and read a couple of your comments. It looks like your biggest gripe with this game is the dark gritty look. Does it upset you that the helghasts don't live in Vegas, or maybe a war torn planet should look like Times Square in your opinion.
I think it fits the helghats perfectly, a civilization bent on war, and you should also keep in mind that it's a planet that's been ravaged by violent weather and conditions. I don't see the helghasts army taking the time to paint buildings and vehicles for everybodies viewing pleasure, that doesn't make sense.
The dark industrial look of this level is absolutely stunning. If you need color, you're right, go play Halo. That game will give you orange and blue aliens, riding around in purple vehicles, while using weapons that shoot off hot pink ammunition. Each person has different opinions on what color war should look like, my opinion is dark and gritty, your opinion is fluorescent green, purple, and hot pink.