Microsoft's Greenberg slams Sony's failed promises
by Andrew Yoon 
{ May 9th 2008 at 1:00PM }
Speaking to Destructoid, Aaron Greenberg, Director of Product Management for Xbox 360 and Xbox Live, added fuel to the red-hot fanboy fire when discussing PS3's upcoming lineup for 2008. Greenberg's statement is certainly going to inspire some truly extraordinary comments from PS3 and Xbox 360 fans alike. While he is a Microsoft spokesperson, we wonder: do his complaints have merit? Read on:"I know a lot of folks enjoy watching the console wars and we would never underestimate our competition. But answer to your question specifically, didn't Sony promise all of this last year including Home as well? We have been fighting Sony's promises from the day we entered the market and if you remember at that time it was all about PS2 being an online cybercity with partner announcements from the likes of RealNetworks and AOL. Then three years ago at E3 they showed what PS3 games would supposedly look like with the Killzone 2 video, that we are now learning will ship four years later. That means that we will have shipped Gears of War and Gears of War 2 before they can even get Killzone out the door," he said. "Think back to GDC 2007 when Sony promised to leap ahead in online with the Sony Home unveil. Here we are two years later and multiple delays for a product that appears to have little to no buzz. Where are the achievements? The friends list integration across all games? Where is the long-promised video store? Where are all the other products using and networking with their CELL chip? How come Blu-ray did not result in better games? What happened with Sixaxis and rumble? Where is the complete 1080p game library we were promised? If Blu-ray as they said would be such a catalyst to PS3 console sales, then why have PS3 sales over the past couple months not seen any lift since the format victory?"
Certainly, being a Playstation devotee has been frustrating. The system has been plagued by a slow start, and a number of key delays. Home and in-game XMB continue to be promises that have failed to materialize. This is a "ten year life cycle" on Sony's part -- but should that mean we should wait so long for the good stuff?
[Via GameDaily]
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
shortyvs @ May 9th 2008 1:14PM
I'm a firm believer in releasing a game when it's done, not when the higher ups want you to. (i.e. the Blizzard Method) But I have to agree that "Home" is just a debacle right now. All these pushed back releases dates seem to be there just to keep the customer saying, "Oh it's only a month away. I'm so excited!". Yet we've been doing that for years now it seems. Honestly, I am not paying attention to anymore release dates or beta news ever. I'll believe it when I play it. I'm a release date atheist.
NineT9 @ May 9th 2008 1:52PM
I'm somewhat the same way, to me, there is only 1 thing that matters:
The end result.
If Home comes out in a year, and is completly mind blowing, then hell ya, im glad it took this long
Think about it... all the delays for various stuff, in the end, if it is the best it can be, we all will forget about it, for example:
Grand Theft Auto 4. It was delayed 6 months... now ask yourself, would you rather have it 6 months ago with bugs, less features, or now?
Trust me, when Home is launched and its successful, we will all forget about the delay, and if we DO remember how long it took, we will be glad they took the amount of time to polish it to how it is now
Roto13 @ May 9th 2008 2:07PM
I definitely prefer the current, bug-free GTA IV. ;p
buzzbean @ May 9th 2008 2:07PM
Delaying a product for quality is one thing, making a promise like "Home is going to revolutionize gaming," to create buzz and then not deliver is tantamount to vapor-ware. Especially for the other cell products, I remember the original promotion of cell, (before we knew what the PS3 would look like) and it was going to talk to a cell chip in your tv, hand held, computer, etc. Each component was going to exponentially increase the processing power. I love the PS3 and Sony products but this guys comments are right on the money.
Oh... and Microsoft sucks! j/k
DeathSyphon @ May 9th 2008 3:34PM
Yes Sony is slacking, they need to put whoever they need as many as they need and get it done. However exclusive PS3 games that got jacked from Microsoft in order to maximize revenue contributed to the loss of quality because developers had to dumb it for them. And lets not forget that Microsoft was paying huge dollars to bribe the entertainment industry to push their insufficient HD monstrosity. I stood in line for 36 hours to on launch day to get my PS3 and would do it again before I contribute to giving Microsoft a monopoly over the gaming industry, with sync in cars, vista, x-box. Once they control the market exclusively they can sell us crap because there will be no ability to compete. Sony cares about innovation and it's consistently proven to be worth waiting for, Microsoft throws money at situations and look what it's done for them. HD what?
Dennis Rosecrans @ May 9th 2008 3:31PM
Yes Sony is slacking, they need to put whoever they need, as many as they need, and get it done. However we all remember the exclusive PS3 games that got jacked by Microsoft which contributed to the loss of quality because developers had to dumb it for them. And lets not forget that Microsoft was paying huge dollars to bribe the entertainment industry to push their insufficient HD monstrosity. I stood in line for 36 hours to on launch day to get my PS3 and would do it again before I contribute to giving Microsoft a monopoly over the gaming industry, with Sync in cars, Vista, X-box. Once they control the market exclusively they can sell us anything because there will be no ability to compete. Sony cares about innovation and it's consistently proven to be worth waiting for, Microsoft throws money at situations and look what it's done for them. HD what?
hey alex @ May 10th 2008 11:02PM
There's a funadamental difference between Sony and Microsoft.
Sony announces games way way in advance. Some major games or functions they mentioned a year or two ago, are still pending or coming out next year.
Microsoft tends to announce what's coming out within the year, and tends to keep mum or barely show what's coming out beyond a year.
What do we know that is coming from Sony in 2009? What do we know is coming from Microsoft in 2009? From Sony, I know a whole lot more. I'm still not even entirely sure what's coming from Microsoft in 2008, beyond maybe 3 titles.
Lars @ May 12th 2008 2:26PM
Something like Home, I'd rather they release it early and keep upgrading it over time. But yeah, regular games HAVE to be finished when released. And I feel the same as you do, shorty, because I was excited about Home and now I'm just ignoring anything having to do with it. It'll come out when it comes out... enough of the anticipation.
Regarding the article, Greenberg does have some valid points but he also has a wave of bull in there too. I know some games haven't had integrated voice-chat or made good use of the friends list. But some have, which leads me to believe that part of the blame falls on the game developers.
At any-rate, the only reason I've found for wanting in-game xmb so far is so that I can change my voice-chat options on the fly. Messaging could be handy occasionally, when trying to hook up with friends in a game that does not cater well to it (ie EoJ).
drdre74 @ May 9th 2008 1:15PM
Dude is right. Mostly all the reasons i bought my PS3 a year ago is because of the stuff that has still not come out yet. Uncharted and Heavenly sword were two of my main reasons and I love them both. But Home is a Urban Myth and is never going to come out to the public. Just release it as is and do the patch updates. I just want to have it. it's been long enough and its sad that Gears 1 and 2 will be out before Killzone. Thats just sad.
ManaKnight @ May 10th 2008 11:34AM
Actually, he failed to mention Resistance, where the first came out around the same time as Gears and the 2nd will be out around the same time as Gears 2.
He doesn't mention how Kameo was suppose to be a launch GC game and ended being a launch 360 game. Also, MS hyped BC and it never came out on the original Xbox. Crimson Skies was delayed 9 months. MS does the same crap too and is hiding it.
JAH75157 @ May 9th 2008 1:15PM
I know i'm going to be flamed for saying this, but Sony needs to step up it's game. The ps3 has been plauged by delays, i've been a sony fanboy for a long time, but these delays and broken promises have left me feeling disheartened.
And yes i know that better products > delays, but there's been many delays. I just hope that Sony steps up it's game, as well as the developers. This year is looking pretty good as far as the line up but wasn't killzone 2 supposed to be a launch title / near launch title? now it's pushed back to 2009.
dblakenz @ May 9th 2008 11:31PM
Agreed, mostly, Home is taking way to long, but when it does finally launch it will be a new experince and one that im looking forward to. Sony has droped the ball on a few exclusives (GTA!) But Im a believer, while the delays have been annyoing (MGS4 anyone......) there for a reason. I believe we will all have a much better experance because of it.
Yes MS keep pumping out your exclusive shooters on limited disk space (GOW 1 + GOW2 = about approx 16 gigs of game) and support HD-DVD, oh wait..... :)
Now think of it this way MGS4 will be the 1st game to use the duel layer 50gig disks! Do the math, 8 gigs vs 50 gigs now let it sink in and it'll hit you....... now! Thats a hell of a lot more work for developers to do, but how much more game are you getting, a hell of alot more! Just think of how huge and awesom GTA is, but that fits on a 8 gig disk! Im betting other PS3 exclusives such as killzone 2 (I never heard it was going to be a lauch title btw MS), Final fantasy, GT5, ROFM2 etc + other future big unannounced exclusive's (the guys behind ICO, Shaddow of the Collosis project...!) will make use of the 50 gig disks. The PS3 exclusive games are really what being a PS3 owner is all about, we have some really great exclusive games already, ROFM, Uncharted , Motorstorm, Warhwak + some really good PSN games to name a few.
Yes it is taking longer, but blu-ray means the games are gonna be huge, but will mean we gotta wait longer for the developers to make all that content. Gotta take the bad with the good.
Fiddlesworth @ May 9th 2008 3:37PM
Microsoft are crapping themselves because NA's the only major region left where they're ahead despite their large head-start.
16 months headstart in Europe, oh boy!
And everyone breaks promises, it's bound to happen when you're providing complex hardware and services.
Eggy @ May 9th 2008 1:17PM
I only care about games and I've only bought a PS3 last Christmas so I'm pretty happy. For early adaptors it's probably alot more frustrating.
Anyway the MS dude should focus more on their own problems instead of whining how this or that feature is not there yet on a competitors system. It's so childish.
Eggy @ May 9th 2008 1:18PM
adopter that is haha
doug @ May 9th 2008 2:36PM
One of Microsoft's problems, in addition to hardware issues, is a shady competitor that throws out sham information about its product so people will consider buying it over a 360. Microsoft has a right to defend itself against the false promises Sony blathers on and on and on and on about. By the time Home is released we'll all be in rest homes.
never$$hort @ May 9th 2008 3:36PM
Don't be jealous of our superior system doug... Just save up your $$$ and buy a PS3.
;)
Popfrogs @ May 9th 2008 5:20PM
Doug = douchey troll. Glance at his comment history.
RedBeard1701 @ May 9th 2008 1:23PM
Maybe if they had taken the "It'll be done when it's done and not before" attitude there would be no RROD. I don't care how much software they have, as a piece of hardware, the 360 is a joke.
That said, I hope Home comes out soon and is a kick to XBL's nuts.
glenn @ May 9th 2008 3:37PM
microsoft really need to sort them selves out.
ps3 has out sold the 360 in europe and japan. 16months after the 360 came out.
This guy seems more scared than anything. Sony never 'promised' anything in the first place -they just showed off what they have in the works. If you are develpoing something like home or killzone of course your gona want to make a song and dance about it!
How can he question blu ray, when his company spent the last 2 years or whatever saying its no good then to lose the format war to it. and now it looks like after all their lies they are gona put a bd drive in the 360 anyway. hoe can you trust a company that spends 2 years telling you 1 thing only to do the opposite after all that time!
Microsoft blatantly rushed out the 360 because they knew they needed the head start over sony - fair play a good business move for them. Not for gamers. I bet evryone knows of someone whos had a 360 break.
all those die hard fans who qued in the cold and rain to get a 360 on lauch day just get betrayed when ms announce they are bringing out hdmi SKU's - something that should have been there from the start. MS shaft their customers with great skill.
i think the console war is stupid myself. But it really angers me when idiots like this spout out crap and expect people to believe it. i find it insulting. i own both a ps3 and 360. if it wasnt for the fact the dvd drive in the 360 was on the blink id have sold it a long time ago.
the best thing about the ps3 for me is the lack of utter morons chatting online. the 360 is full of them. much like their members of staff!
rant over.
leigh bartram @ May 9th 2008 4:29PM
What gets me with all this dudes comments are about Sony not living upto their commitments but myself and my brothers started out as xbox 360 fans i went through 3 due to red ring of death so i went out and brought a ps3 which been playing happily now for 1 year with no problems. And my brothers soon jumped on the bandwagon when their 360's got red ring of death we all rang Microsoft to complain and when we read out the serial number they said our machines were not covered by the 3 year warranty. At least PS3 dont need to come with a warning about overplaying can cause RROD! Microsoft sucks move over and make way for the real star of games consoles.
John S @ May 9th 2008 1:19PM
Hate to say it but I think he's right, for the most part.
Jerses @ May 9th 2008 2:25PM
Agree. This guy is saying what a smart 360fanboy would say about the ps3, its really a true problem. But then... if we start with the problems of the 360 we will end with RROD. What sony needs to do is just keep this updates secret so we fanboys dont just wait to long... the need to tell us one month after realease date.
never$$hort @ May 9th 2008 3:50PM
Yeah he is right to a certain degree, but the problems that Sony has are common with any gaming system.
Another thing I notice is that M$ talks far more trash about Sony then the other way around. I hardly ever hear Sony talking about M$'s hardware failure rates or their multiple SKU's adding features that should have been there from the start, HDMI, HDD, ect.
M$ seriously needs to get off their high horse and quit trying to downplay their competition that is rapidly catching up and will soon take over. Comments like these only make them look SCARED and WORRIED and there seems to be a lot of statements like this being made like this lately.
Someone is getting nervous and it isn't Sony...
dsr7997 @ May 9th 2008 6:05PM
"Another thing I notice is that M$ talks far more trash about Sony then the other way around."
Are you f**cking serious?
never$$hort @ May 9th 2008 8:11PM
Yeah dead serious... Show me sources that prove otherwise and I'll concede that statement...
Oh, and another thing... Game delays are not uncommon, however, electronics with failure rates of 33% or higher on any device, game system or not, is nearly unheard of. So i think this dude seriously needs to quit while he's ahead and STFU. M$ is definitely scared about something but I can't quite put my finger on it, oh wait... ;)
dsr7997 @ May 12th 2008 2:14AM
"Yeah dead serious... Show me sources that prove otherwise and I'll concede that statement..."
Here you go however; I am sure you will come back with "Yeah well, everything Sony said about M$ is true".
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051213-5759.html
http://www.psu.com/Microsoft-hasnt-reached-beyond-FPS-fans,-says-Sony--a0002978-p0.php
http://xbox.joystiq.com/2006/06/28/kaz-hirai-microsoft-is-just-a-copycat/
http://kotaku.com/387930/david-reeves-utters-snide-things-about-microsoft
Fiddlesworth @ May 9th 2008 1:20PM
Wasn't one of the big things Microsoft were pushing as an Xbox 360 advantage before launch customisation? Tacky looking faceplates isn't my idea of customisation, PS3's well ahead in that respect, XMB themes (professional and user-made), Unreal Tournament III mods, LittleBigPlanet etc etc.
Didn't they even say you'd be able to SELL mods? How many years now and still you can't.
Elwood JD @ May 9th 2008 2:58PM
Just wanted to clarify, when Microsoft talked about customization, they didn't mean those silly faceplates. They were saying you were being given the option of which SKU to buy, and how much you wanted to spend on upgrading with peripherals over time (add HDD, wireless, HD-DVD, etc) as you decide that you need them. While your prefer for this method or the uber-expensive but all inclusive Sony method for console distribution is a matter of choice, you can't say they did not give the consumer customization.
As for mods, your deluded if you ever thought M$ would allow open mods on Live. They purposefully have a closed system (which they tout as protecting the consumer and the service) and have never said they would allow open mods (developers could apply for and have specific mods approved for the marketplace, but user-generated content is generally disallowed).
adolson @ May 9th 2008 1:21PM
GDC2007 + 2 years later != May 2008... Guy can't count.
Sauvage @ May 9th 2008 3:43PM
My thoughts exactly! If the dude can't even do basic arithmetic should we really to any of this other points?
Fact is Microsoft have squandered a 16 month lead. The PS3 is now only 6 million units behind the Xbox 360, and is still out selling the Xbox 360 world wide on a monthly basis, even with all the price cuts Microsoft have thrown out there. So it shows that a higher price point and more reliable machine can outsell a badly made, unreliable machine that is cheaper and has been out for 16 months.
The Xbox 360 peaked to early and that is why Microsoft will bring out another console in the hope that they can make gamers upgrade to the next version just like PCs need upgrading every couple of years, and forget about the mess they made of their first next gen console.
Draicus @ May 9th 2008 1:22PM
Obviously Sony still has a lot to prove, but hearing things like this coming from a Microsoft employee screams, "Don't look at our failures as a gaming platform or our complete lack of AAA titles in 2008! Look at Sony's promises that feel through and completely forget that we only have two good games coming out all year!"
JayD-1K @ May 9th 2008 7:54PM
they only problem Sony has is, that they are trying to do to much at one time! Sony is trying make an online service to rival XBL in 2yrs! it took MS 5yrs to get to where they are!
do i agree with him on the fact that Sony needs to bring a couple of things to the table...and fast but, MS hasn't been up front with all their short commings and the fact (wether you like it or not) MS does throw money at all their problems to try to hide them!
"IF" Sony delivers the goods this year....MS will have alot of things to worry about...especialy if they bring another new SKU to market and god forbid if they put a Blu-ray drive in it! that would meen not only was Sony right but, they are still the most forward thinking company when it comes to hardware in the gaming world.
people are already sarted to see the benifits the PS3 brings to the table out the box!
these are just my thoughts but, it does kinda of sound like he is trying to throw some salt on Sony's game. with the recent up shift in sales in all.
Fiddlesworth @ May 9th 2008 1:23PM
Seems like a reaction to 16 months headstart of 360 sales overtaken by PS3 in Europe, too.
North America's the only major region left where they're ahead.
RPMd70 @ May 10th 2008 9:50AM
That's because everything in between the west and east coast... is... well... you know. Let's just say, "genetically inferior" hah.
RangerPrimeX @ May 9th 2008 1:26PM
Sony does seem to make a ton of promises that either fade away or take forever to arrive. I have both systems and the new PSN Store is better and closer to LIVE but overall PSN lacks the polish and vital functions of LIVE. Why no in game XMB for so long when that one feature would go along way to making PS3 owners happy. Why must I install everything and be able not to do anything during the install? If they put resources into that polish first before Home, PS3 owners would be much happier. Stuff like this is why I got GTA on my 360 instead. Another sad example is the horrible roll out of the MGO Beta which some people still have not been able to get necessary updates so they can run and let's not speak of the multiple necessary logins from Konami.
Polish and games is what Sony should focus on.
PS.
Don't go off about PSN is free. Doesn't matter as that makes it an excuse for why it is not as good as LIVE. Make it as good or better than LIVE that should be Sony's goal.
hovan316 @ May 9th 2008 3:37PM
This is the reason why Sony will win at the end...because of idiots by the likes of Greenberg who feed on bashing the competition...
Instead of acting like a little girly fanboy, why don't you FIX the hardware quality of the Xcrap360...
We all know delays are hard to swallow but PS3 has more 1080p native games that the Xbox 360 which has only 3 games running natively at 1080p. Rumble is out, get with the times Greenberg. We don't fasely advertise 1080p on our game boxes like MS does. PS3 has been selling better than the X360 for the last couple of months. MS's "we're out of stock" excuse holds no more weight as people are buying more PS3's than 360's. Last but no least, Sony's 2008 lineup completely destroys Microsoft's lineup.
So M. Greenberg, just shut your yap, it's very obvious that you are feeling the strong competition...
For now, go back to the drawing books and fix those dreaded RED RING OF DEATHS.
Xbox 360 = Worst quality console in the HISTORY of consoles!
True_Darknight @ May 9th 2008 3:36PM
He has good points. However I'm still happy with my PS3 and not a FailBox360. I was just playing CoD4 for like 8 hours last nite. talking on headset with party friends and joining games together and all... and did I mention all free?? And not probs? just fun no (RRoD for anyone in the party either)
So yes they may need to stop promising stuff that they can't deliver... just talk about it and don't pin down a date for the masses. Pin down a date with the developers.
okie bAck to work!
mavbsbll21 @ May 9th 2008 8:22PM
lol @ "just fun no (RRoD for anyone in the party either)"
Efeez1986 @ May 9th 2008 3:36PM
The PS3 has only been out for a year and a half, so what the fuck is everybody talking about? I don't understand why everybody expects the PS3 to match the PS2's game library in only a year and a half. People need to stop acting like games are made over night, it takes time to make a high quality game(MGS 4, Killzone 2, Final Fantasy 13, GT5). The 360 didn't get it's first great exclusive until it's 2nd year(Gears of War), while the PS3 is getting MGS 4 next month and the console hasn't even hit it's 2nd year yet plus Killzone 2 in the beginning of the 2nd year of the PS3's 2nd year life cycle.
The 360 has dealt with delayed games too, so why do people act like it's only the PS3?
Delayed 360 games: Saint's Row, Crackdown, Mass Effect, Too Human, Project Gotham Racing 4, Oblivion(was suppose to launch w/ the 360 but was pushed back).
Nick @ May 9th 2008 3:36PM
I hate to say it but there is a fair bit of truth to what greenberg said.I`ve felt quite letdown with what sony has delivered so far.What with home,achievements,and delay after delay on games sony have been fairly disappointing thus far.Granted MGS4 will definetly help sales figures for the ps3,But hearing that Killzonezone is gonna be feb next year i can`t help feeling letdown yet again.I mean we had to put up with this with Haze delay after delay.And i want better features like private chat etc like 360 owners enjoy(even tho i own a 360).Plus i`m sick of getting piss poor ports of 360 games as well.Although that isn`t a fault of sonys thats a fault of the developers who convert them.I just wish a few more developers would take more time to learn the ps3 infrastructure.And the whole sixaxis business was nothing but a pain in the ass,knowing that the controller didn`t initially had no rumble.But what i will say is Microsoft can talk and slag off sony as much as they want.They made a noisy cheap looking unreliable piece of crap of a games console.Sure they have great games for the 360,but Microsoft are far from perfect either.I`m on my third 360 in 2 years and i`m sick of the hassle of dealing with Microsoft over and over again.I own both machines and they both have their good and bad points.But i do think Sony need to pull their finger out abit and start giving us loyal ps3 owners the games we deserve,And to improve the features for ps3 online.Because Live is definetly superior online.
JAH75157 @ May 9th 2008 1:31PM
i for one would be overjoyed for in game xmb, they could push home back to 2010 and i wouldn't care if they did that.
it seems like army of 2 allowed somewhat limited access to it, if i remember right. if the game can do it why can't the console creators.
Martez @ May 9th 2008 1:32PM
Why can't we vote for both? Yes, Sony needs to keep their game up, but this dude is also a Microsoft shill.
adolson @ May 9th 2008 2:29PM
Yup, totally agree.
flawed poll is flawed
Big Easy @ May 12th 2008 12:18AM
I understand that Sony needs to step its game up..........but so does Xbox and Nintendo.
Yeah its easy to shine the spotlight on Sony's fault, cause they are still the big dogs (PS2, and succesfull PSP).
Nintendo and MS has also made a bunch of promises they did not keep also before launch. They both still have problems that plague them since launch. Wii online capabilities, freinds list, and much needed harddrive. 360's famous RRODs, bad laging live, people mysteriously losing or being locked out downloadable content they paid for. There still is a long list of faults for both these systems.
As for as selling PS3, has been outselling the 360 on a monthy bases since Blu-Ray won.
GoW 1&2, DVD format technology is 15 years old, of course its easier to code for it so that the game can be released quicker. Blu-Ray is just 2 years old, and developers are still learning how to code games for it. So to cut corners many 360 games are ported to the PS3 poorly, instead of coding it from the ground up for the PS3.
Lastly Greenberg is just a whiny b****. Trying to slam Sony when its about to have its biggest exclusive game to date realesed. Nice try buddy.
eclipse27 @ May 9th 2008 5:11PM
awesome post bro!!
JayD-1K @ May 9th 2008 7:59PM
agreed! you can read my above post.
Lars @ May 12th 2008 2:48PM
Good points. Also don't forget the Wii's lack of HD, and the fact that the 360's other hardware failures aside from RRoD are not covered under their billion-dollar extended warranty.
I love how Greenberg says "WE will have shipped Gears of War..." as if they're the one's making it, LOL, and it's not even an exclusive!
There's a wave of BS towards the end of his rant:
"How come Blu-ray did not result in better games?"
It most certainly did. Look at the majority of cross-plats (Oblivion, Burnout, UT3, to name a few). Way way better than the 360 versions. And look at the AAA exclusives... nothing on the 360 looks as good as those.
"What happened with Sixaxis and rumble?"
I don't even get what he's trying to say. We all know that rumble couldn't be used because of the lawsuit, but now it's back. SIXAXIS isn't going anywhere, and has definitely added a lot when it's done well. Yeah, there's been a couple where it's not so great, but the ratio of good implementations to bad is pretty good, and far better than even the Wii's motion control. (believe me, I own both. waggle waggle waggle waggle... why am I not just pressing a damn button for this?)
"Where is the complete 1080p game library we were promised?"
Let's tally up how many good 1080p games we've got on PS3, then on 360... yeahhh.
"If Blu-ray as they said would be such a catalyst to PS3 console sales, then why have PS3 sales over the past couple months not seen any lift since the format victory?"
I honestly don't see what effect the movie format war would have on game console sales. Did people run out and buy PS2's because they could play DVD movies? At the early life of the PS3 when it just happened to be the cheapest blu-ray movie player, then I could understand... but now, no.
HAAS599 @ May 9th 2008 1:36PM
he has some good points we are all aware of, but when he needs to realize the games would be better on Blu-ray if his xbox console didnt dumb-down all the multi-platformers
James @ May 9th 2008 3:36PM
I think he's right on the 1080p games and the slow delivery cycle - but Sony did the delayed-release thing with the PSP too, so I wasn't nearly as surprised this time around with the slippage. However, I do think his assertion that the console hasn't seen a sales surge is a little incorrect - didn't the PS3 just outsell the 360 in Europe? And hasn't it dominated already in Asia? So really, you just have North America left and we're a little late to the game. I think the hardware frustrations of the 360 have turned people off to the next round of Microsoft consoles and they'll be more apt to sit on the sidelines next round, and Microsoft should fix their own house before throwing rocks at Sony.