PSP-3001 discovered on FCC website, reveals nothing new (so far)
by Andrew Yoon 
{ Aug 14th 2008 at 2:45AM }
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
sean @ Aug 14th 2008 2:58AM
i have an original PSP but the speakers are in a different spot then mine. unless that was changed on PSP2000. not really a big change though. maybe itll be even lighter?
Nate @ Aug 14th 2008 11:00AM
Speakers were moved for the 2000 to the left and right of screen near the top of the screen
Lars @ Aug 14th 2008 2:10PM
I believe this slight revision has a mic built in, right? I may sell mine and snag this version, just for that feature. It'll be nice to be able to Skype at a moment's notice without having to drag around the headset everywhere.
I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of folks saying "OMG PSP 3.0 SUXXORZ! NOTHIN NEW!" Those people are idiotic. Hardware revisions have nothing to do with end-user features. Usually the hardware is revised when there is a step up in related technology which makes production cheaper.
What's funny too is I never seem to hear these complaints about anything but the PSP. When something like the Xbox 360 comes out with a new internal revision which adds nothing whatsoever for the end-user, people say "YES! It has a slightly less chance of breaking down! Thank you MS!"
Marty @ Aug 15th 2008 2:00PM
The reason why people complain about these things, Lars, is that for everyone else who has already purchased one, it sucks. I've been considering buying a PSP for a little while now, but I don't want to buy one and then have a new version be released a month later, with better features.
With consoles and handhelds, it's best to nail down one design and stick to it, especially in terms of functionality. You'll see a similar backlash with the Wii if Nintendo ever releases a version that can play DVD's, especially if they can't upgrade the old units with firmware.
Mr.U2 @ Aug 14th 2008 3:03AM
haha, wow, I love the PSP and all, but Sony doesn't seem to learn from their mistakes. Not that there are too many "mistakes" with the PSP, but I guess it would just be nice if Sony got a little bit creative. Ha, it's pretty much the exact same PSP... I guess Sony is going by the whole, "If it aint broke, don't fix it."
Sinful Lust @ Aug 14th 2008 5:15AM
"Unfortunately, many of the more interesting details about the system are still unavailable for public access. Expect to see more info coming out of Sony about this next PSP revision in the coming weeks."
RockerAnimeFreak @ Aug 14th 2008 12:32PM
Well the 3000 series moved around the wlan and has an antenna which means... TV? like digital? thats what I'm thinking since the States are making the jump next February. I might pick this up! =)
Mr.U2 @ Aug 14th 2008 1:14PM
Whoops, looks like I was wrong, I didn't notice that line. Digital sounds very interesting. I take it back, Sony. You have gotten creative! Yay!
Mistah @ Aug 14th 2008 3:25AM
Wait, so does this mean I should wait to get my slim PSP? I don't want to get a PSP, when a new version releases this Christmas.
HAAS599 @ Aug 14th 2008 2:30PM
yes it does, I'm glad I never got a slim now. I'll have my trusty phat for supporting the homebrew scene and the new 3000 for supporting the legit sony firmware scene.
Parker @ Aug 14th 2008 3:35AM
Add a second nub Sony, come on now.
Frastoglegnia @ Aug 14th 2008 3:42AM
Someone managed to say it in the ten seconds it took me to post. In a word, gee.
pixelator @ Aug 14th 2008 12:18PM
As always has to get repeated every time someone brings up second analog: You won't see a second nub until the next actual handheld Sony releases (whether it's PSP2 or whatever). Why? Backward compatibility would be shot if they added that, and alienate millions on millions of existing PSP owners.
farfisa @ Aug 14th 2008 12:39PM
Now, adding a second nub would be in the "admitting they were wrong" category, but the easy way around it is to ensure that devs develop extra control schemes to accommodate older PSPs. Don't they have to have a way around the controls for PS1 games?
They'd sell a sheisse-load of hardware on day 1 if they just put in another nub instead of shaving off another millimeter. Then again, can PSP games be patched?
I actually just looked it up--the first PS1 controller had NO analog sticks, then they came out with a dual. So do something like that, Sony! Isn't alienating the customer what huge companies do best? ;)
EZ_HumanAbattoir @ Aug 17th 2008 3:00PM
Farfisa... That only involved buying a new controller to upgrade. Not a new CONSOLE.
Frastoglegnia @ Aug 14th 2008 3:41AM
Someone has to say this eventually: so much for the second analog stick.
daniel-kun @ Aug 14th 2008 3:47AM
But the color is new! I haven't seen a white PSP with pink icons, yet.
Daniel, bored by Sony.
aj @ Aug 14th 2008 4:40AM
And I just bought a PSP-2001! Ah well. It looks like the 3001 is going to be the same thing, but with more....something or other.
Someone needs to ask Sony to stop doing whatever it is they are doing. I love them to death, but they're asking for more money than a lot of folks are willing to spend just to play a game. It's getting kind of weird. Just make more games.
Lars @ Aug 14th 2008 2:14PM
You know, all PSP's fat and slim play the same games...
aj @ Aug 14th 2008 11:03PM
Indeed I do.
Though there is a possibility of incompatibility with every new iteration of the hardware.
.....I'm just paranoid.
supa_s @ Aug 14th 2008 4:41AM
hmmm no PS button as well
TJF588 @ Aug 14th 2008 4:51AM
*sigh* Well, I've got some time to stave for getting a jorb (and thus munnies) for teh PSPings. Hopefuly (pfft, right) they'll actually offer a bundle with the piano black colored ones. Srsly, Sony, not everyone wants their system brighter than the screen they're trying to play on.
Kspraydad @ Aug 14th 2008 5:10AM
Regarding the rumours from pspchina.net that the PSP 3000 will have a dedicated home button and built in mic...the image from FCC does NOT have to reveal this...it is merely a placeholder image to allow for FCC label positioning to be revealed.
I like the built in mic idea...saves people 20$ perhaps versus buying headset for skype...maybe some DS blow games too! (/sarcasm)
I'd like to see built in GPS for the US market launch and built in camera.
Guido @ Aug 14th 2008 9:17AM
Built-in GPS would be nice :) Although the GPS USB thingy is really tiny and easy to carry around, comes with a well-made little box for protection during travel too.
The camera ... well, that 1.3 Megapixel crap certainly isn't worth it, either a real camera (and then the PSP would get bulkier or more expensive) or nothing at all. And as for built-in mic, it's easy, so why not. But I haven't used my Skype headset, ever :p
Kattleox @ Aug 14th 2008 8:25AM
This does have a mic, though. Look closely at the bottom of the "S" in PSP. Perhaps this is the PSP phone that we have all been waiting for? Wouldn't THAT be anticlimactic.
lonesomefolly @ Aug 14th 2008 7:19AM
I feel slightly betrayed having a not-very-old psp slim.
joey @ Aug 14th 2008 12:08PM
Welcome to the world of iPod
FOXHOUND @ Aug 14th 2008 7:30AM
I'd rather them encourage devs to make more games for the system that make more systems. :\ What good is the handheld (legally) if there's nothing to play?
Mike @ Aug 14th 2008 7:43AM
Second analog nub .....
rmjohnson124 @ Aug 14th 2008 8:24AM
they need to add a fold out mirror for the lines of coke people will be doing while they stay awake playing all hours of the night....
rmjohnson124 @ Aug 14th 2008 8:28AM
they can't make any fundamental changes to the system without making older psp's obsolete.....if they add a second stick, then games will be made to use a second stick and the original psp's won't work.....second stick won't be out til they make a next gen version of the psp...
they either need to be satistfied with the console as it is at this point and just make games for it or they need to abandon the psp and come out with a new portable with all the major changes and make new games for that....
emirabal @ Aug 14th 2008 9:28AM
I get what you are saying but what next generation are you waiting for, the new psp needs to have a built in hard drive and that second analog nub, dont even worry about the touch screen, its not necessary at this point and for all intensive purposes its somewhat useless i feel.
Games from PSP 1000 and 2000 series will work on this but if a developer chooses to make a game with dual analog nubs (if that gets added on) then it needs to state that clearly to people that it wont work unless you have the dual analog psp, simple as that. If consumers cant understand that then thats another issue.
Point being its time sony steps up and fixes the damage they have done and put in the built in hard drive in and a slot for memory card, its got the space in there it can handle it. and the second analog nub, and if you want to add your stupid touch screen and give me my effing trophies for this crap i payed 40-50 bucks for a game for when it release.
Greedy sony
emirabal @ Aug 14th 2008 10:08AM
I get what you are saying but what next generation are you waiting for, the new psp needs to have a built in hard drive and that second analog nub, dont even worry about the touch screen, its not necessary at this point and for all intensive purposes its somewhat useless i feel.
Games from PSP 1000 and 2000 series will work on this but if a developer chooses to make a game with dual analog nubs (if that gets added on) then it needs to state that clearly to people that it wont work unless you have the dual analog psp, simple as that. If consumers cant understand that then thats another issue.
Point being its time sony steps up and fixes the damage they have done and put in the built in hard drive in and a slot for memory card, its got the space in there it can handle it. and the second analog nub, and if you want to add your stupid touch screen and give me my effing trophies for this crap i payed 40-50 bucks for a game for when it release.
Greedy sony
emirabal @ Aug 14th 2008 9:35AM
I get what you are saying but what next generation are you waiting for, the new psp needs to have a built in hard drive and that second analog nub, dont even worry about the touch screen, its not necessary at this point and for all intensive purposes its somewhat useless i feel.
Games from PSP 1000 and 2000 series will work on this but if a developer chooses to make a game with dual analog nubs (if that gets added on) then it needs to state that clearly to people that it wont work unless you have the dual analog psp, simple as that. If consumers cant understand that then thats another issue.
Point being its time sony steps up and fixes the damage they have done and put in the built in hard drive in and a slot for memory card, its got the space in there it can handle it. and the second analog nub, and if you want to add your stupid touch screen and give me my effing trophies for this crap i payed 40-50 bucks for a game for when it release.
Greedy sony
pixelator @ Aug 14th 2008 12:21PM
Right. Because no OTHER game companies we know have tried to profit off of slightly warmed-over versions of their previous Gamecu-- I mean console.
Jacksons @ Aug 14th 2008 3:37PM
@emirabal
"its got the space in there it can handle it."
Have you opened your PSP? It's a bit tight in there.
hittheroadjack @ Aug 16th 2008 12:07AM
If Apple is able to develop a fold out button layout that snaps behind an iPhone/iTouch it would have a near unbeatable system (the only downside would be the price)
I'd like to see PSP2 as a touchscreen (capacitive) that has a fold out "wing" on each side for use when needed, popularize networking by including a front-facing camera for video chatting over wifi, 802.11 n support, 8gb flash memory, 3 megapixel camera, and expansion ports for addons like accelerometor (sp?) snap on, or gps, or a phone attachment, or rumble.
Sure it would cost more than PS4, but who cares..
rmjohnson124 @ Aug 14th 2008 8:31AM
it would be nice to have a feature that allowed one to connect a ps3 controller to the psp...
s.mario @ Aug 14th 2008 8:40AM
How about some new games!!! who cares about the hardware, it all plays the same games...I've got the original PSP, and couldn't care less about the new ones. I just want some freakin games!!!!!
Jacksons @ Aug 14th 2008 10:35AM
As long as it's a non-essential upgrade, I'm fine. I doubt they'd obsolete the older models, so I think I'm safe!
Akas @ Aug 14th 2008 11:10AM
Hmm...first Sony releases a survey asking why its' fanbase uses CFW and homebrew. Secondly a bunch of big name developers state that they're not developing for the PSP anymore due to piracy (not the only reason of course). And now this?
It seems like Sony is getting annoyed at the whole CFW scene and so they are trying to make money with more hardware. That would be fine a few years ago, but this move now is a bit iffy. Now (at least in Japan), PSP's doing really well and they have several blockbuster hits (Monster Hunter 2nd G, PSP, etc.) and several more on the way (Dissidia, KH, etc.)
They're risking what little profits they might gain from sales to do this, and so there's only probably three reasons why they'd do this.
1. They're going to create a new "pack", with the new model going with a new release (say, Dissidia for example). If that's the case, then the new model is either going to have very minor changes or else the game is SPECIFICALLY going to be designed for the new model.
2. They've figured out a way to prevent CFW from working with the PSP. Ha ha ha, yeah right, but perhaps they're worried about piracy so much that they're trying to implement new security measures to boost software sales.
3. A new feature is going to be implemented. Skype was for slim-only (I think?), so this new model would have some appeal. Possible options: GPS, American TV tuner, decent quality digital camera, phone.
rikki @ Aug 14th 2008 12:02PM
Your #2 seems very likely to me.
The PS2 has had what—14 revisions in less than nine years? Yet there's only been ONE big form factor change. Sure, some of the hardware was switched around, but most of the changes were internal...and a lot of them made console modification more difficult.
pixelator @ Aug 14th 2008 12:18PM
Uh... Which 'bunch of third party developers announced they're not developing for the PSP anymore due to piracy'..? Link, plz.
Also, please link to where anyone has claimed Skype was 'slim only', that the new model is being customized for 'a single game pack'.
lonesomefolly @ Aug 15th 2008 9:02AM
Uh, developers said they aren't making games for PSP because they are retarded goons who find it boring not due to piracy. Those would be American developers, of course. Japanese developers know how to innovate with hardware that doesn't have all those gimmicks, and thus, have games.
Dr Haisook @ Aug 14th 2008 12:29PM
Don't think at all that there would be a second analog nub. Making old system versions TOTALLY obsolete is not something Sony would do. A PSP is a PSP, and so the 'basic' functions must be available in all versions.
I don't think PSP 2 (if there would be one in the first place) would have a second analog nub either. Want 2? Check out a Playstation home console.
anarkhy @ Aug 14th 2008 4:28PM
They probably will make it more difficult to hack than add new features.
Adding more stuff will make the price higher and they need to lower to achieve a better user base.
All this people whining for psp 2, a second analog stick, touch screen... wait for the next 7 years :D
Anthony @ Aug 14th 2008 4:34PM
It's most likely a PSP-2001 that is "unhackable" by all means known currently.
Anthony @ Aug 14th 2008 4:49PM
oh, and i forgot to add,
why are you people hoping for a psp2? sony is obviously just gonna keep going psp-3000, psp-4000, psp-5000, with every little hardware refresh they do, exactly like the ps2, there are like, 25,000 different model names, they dont call it the ps22.
i hate the word psp2 now. it causes major migraines every time i see it.
and stop hoping for things that are near impossible like terabytes orf hard drive and a second analog nub with second r+l triggers. impossible.
maybe a 1gb, or probably 2gb built-in memory would be suffifcient, because sony is already doing 1gb in their mylo communicator.
and a mic is really inexpensive. so do implement it.
and no touchscreen, sony isnt worried about the nintendo ds. they said its not their problem, its apple's problem. so shut it. we dont need touch screen.
extra wireless, sony might actually add some sort of connectivity to, maybe, bluetooth devices such as keyboards, like they said they would be developing sometime this year or next, but there is no possibility for built-in gps, as you already probably know, if its built-in, they can charge more for it. and plus, the $60 gps attachment is fune enough, its adjustable.
and stop asking for trophies and in-game xmb, sony is rumored to already be doing some sort of micro-update for the psp.
if anything, they should maker a umd driveless psp, then what they should do it make an external umd drive that converts a umd to your memory card through the psp's usb connector, and of course, by the laws of sony's stupidity, drm the !@&@ out of the umd so its not tranferable to other psp's.
thats what i think, it would cut costs so they can add other features to make the psp more enjoyable.
anyway, if its not believable, and if it wont make sony some money, it wont happen.
andwhyisit @ Aug 14th 2008 7:07PM
Any hardware revision requires a new version number. Unless this is a major hardware revision they (Sony) would most likely just quietly release this.
Steven @ Aug 15th 2008 11:52AM
This antenna on the psp came out in japan last week with the new blue psp bundle and they could watch tv on their psp in japan because they have digital tv service in japan only for psp and phone that came out in 2006. Also the new psp 3000 suppose the have satellite gps to locate online players so imagine wat hackers can do with that. Hopefully if they gonna have a mic for psp for online game play they better improve the psp online severs cause it sucks ass in the states ppl don't play online here, so maybe that will increase online play and maybe they will come out with games like DS the ones that u have to us the mic to play