Newell says Valve needs to invest in PS3 development
by Jem Alexander 
{ Sep 23rd 2008 at 9:45PM }
So does that mean we can expect to see a PS3 version of Zombie-pocalyse-em-up Left 4 Dead? Newell states that Valve doesn't "have the bandwidth. For The Orange Box, EA did the PS3 version. They're interested in getting a PS3 version done. We just have to figure out where the resources can come from." Probably not until after the 360 and PC versions, then. Still, it's great that Valve is going to be looking into PS3 development at some point in the future. We're just hoping it's sooner, rather than later.
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kevin @ Sep 23rd 2008 9:50PM
gosh i hate this guy
he said ps3 does not have enough bandwidth
i wont buy anything from valve.
EVAR
Fiddlesworth @ Sep 23rd 2008 10:10PM
Don't talk nonsense, HE may have done in the past but now he's admitting VALVE don't have the bandwidth to handle more versions.
I just want a timely, highly polished version of HL2: Episode 3 on PS3. The PS3's far more than capable, Source on PS3 just needs a lot more love and commitment.
HaloEleven @ Sep 23rd 2008 10:09PM
He didn't say the ps3 doesn't have the bandwidth - he said Valve doesn't. But, er, yeah... I hate this guy too...
kevin @ Sep 23rd 2008 11:02PM
interesting pics of this guy:
http://image.21tx.com/image/20061206/13941.jpg
http://www.caltrops.com/images/gabeneedsbrains.jpg
http://www.caltrops.com/images/hl2-2-citizen.jpg
duckhunt8 @ Sep 23rd 2008 11:19PM
The source engine needs to die. Look at how ridiculously out dated it is. I'll admit that it's still useful and good, but imagine what they could be using instead.
leatherface @ Sep 23rd 2008 11:39PM
cool pic, glad to see he is finally working out. that f a t a s s.
anthonyjh @ Sep 24th 2008 3:14AM
The guy is really overweight, but the name calling is childish.
YOU WON'T DEVELOP FOR MY CONSOLE OF CHOICE? THEN YOUR FAT! HAH! I'M CLEVER!
Philip @ Sep 24th 2008 11:33PM
forget the investing unless you do a public apology, I'm still not buying from valve
Arnon @ Sep 23rd 2008 9:52PM
Um.. this is almost a complete opposite of the article that Joystiq posted. All Valve said was they had a lack of bandwidth and that there wouldn't be a L4D or TF2 updates on the PS3 or something like that.
Desi_D @ Sep 23rd 2008 10:24PM
Read the full interview. Joystiq is good at spin.
jizzwacker @ Sep 23rd 2008 10:09PM
About time fatty decides to consider us. How can someone make such awesome games and yet still be a total jackass?
Jack Tretton @ Sep 24th 2008 8:55AM
For someone with the word "jizz" in his username, you skirt the envelope of jackassery yourself.
RyIvan @ Sep 23rd 2008 10:07PM
Yeah, right... From what i see his elitist attitude toward the console when it wasn't fairing so well was "Oh, the PS3? That isn't selling nearly as many as the PC / 360 Counterpart, why would i need to put any effort into that? EA Wants to do a horrible port of my software that makes me look like a dick? Cool, go ahead, as long as i don't have to do it."
Then here we are, down the track, with the PS3 continually picking up sales and new exclusive titles, the promises Sony broke in the past 2 years finally coming good and the console improving right across the board and he shows interest.
Gabe, go have another sandvich.
JayD-1K @ Sep 23rd 2008 10:06PM
what's up with the PS3 luv all of a sudden? I thought that they were against PS3 development or was it just the architecture?
DrunkRaba @ Sep 24th 2008 1:01AM
$$$$$$$$ is what is up. With the PS3 outselling or staying close to the 360, its getting harder to ignore the potential monies!
Emophia @ Sep 24th 2008 3:29AM
That's gonna change with the insane 360 price drop though.
Spencer @ Sep 24th 2008 8:12PM
He figured out that we were going to win.
mike @ Sep 23rd 2008 10:07PM
Ha, Valve is on the downward spiral, the only game that I still play from them is CS source, other than that I never buy any of the other garbage they create. HL2, is boring as hell.
sicklesdawg @ Sep 23rd 2008 10:08PM
ON YOUR KNEES !!!!
sicklesdawg @ Sep 23rd 2008 10:16PM
I gave up on Half life (boring) and I hope his company gets bought by activision
sirpilf @ Sep 23rd 2008 10:32PM
i had halflife2 for PC, and played portal at a friends, and they are fun and great for what they are but I can care less if source engine doesnt get optimized for PS3. source engine is outdated....
Nick @ Sep 23rd 2008 10:58PM
The developers at Valve probably didn't want to learn how to use the PS3's architecture. That's really no excuse, however, when you look at how many PS3 owners there are. There aren't as many as PC or 360, but there are still millions of people out there willing to buy Valve products that own PS3s.
Jason @ Sep 23rd 2008 11:00PM
Gabe Newell should shut his putrid mouth and stay far away from PS3 development if he knows what's good for his company.
He said quite loud and clear that the PS3 is a waste of time. Subsequently PS3 owners said loud and clear that Gabe Newell and Valve is a waste of time.
I for one will never buy another Valve product again.
Go back to sucking on Microsoft's teets Gabe, we don't want you here.
By the way Half-Life is one of the most overrated games ever. If you missed it, don't worry.
kevin @ Sep 23rd 2008 11:03PM
dude marry me.
Stranger @ Sep 23rd 2008 11:01PM
Jason pretty much summed up my feelings of this guy
Stay away from PS3, Gabe... We don't need you
LordAbsu @ Sep 23rd 2008 11:12PM
Show the PS3 more love, devs!!
Daddy wants Fallout 3 DLC, among other things.
Kspraydad @ Sep 23rd 2008 11:12PM
It took EA 2 years to finally get me to buy one of their PS3 games (and it's actually a CRITERION game)...Gabe...It'd take YOUR company at least that long.
Invisible Robot Meat @ Sep 23rd 2008 11:26PM
SUPER MEGA ULTRA *yawn* I've never missed what I never had.
FrodoTBaggins @ Sep 23rd 2008 11:34PM
I really don't understand why there is always so much hate towards developers. Sometimes I wish I didn't try to keep informed.
I mean stuff like this always kinda changes my view on the games that developers produce. If I knew nothing about all the politics that goes on behind the scenes and just focussed on the games they produce I think I'd be better off.
Having said this Gabe Newell is a total douche!!! Won't stop me from buying his game's if they're good though.
Popfrogs @ Sep 24th 2008 2:13PM
Well, there is hate towards developers for many reasons. People hate on EA for releasing low quality rehashes with poor QA and releasing patches to fix things that never should have made it to the gold release.
People hate on Gabe/Valve for trashing the PS3 at every opportunity. But in Gabe's case it's even worse; not only did he say the PS3 sucked/architecture was too crazy/would never code for it, Valve dumped their game off to a junky EA studio in London. Some say the port was pretty close to the Xbox version, I don't know as I haven't played it.
He still isn't talking about making games for the PS3. All he's saying now is that it'd be a good idea to port the (aging) Source engine to the PS3 so that _other_ developers can make games using the engine. Since Epic's Unreal engine has had either bad games or poor results on the PS3, the market for a licensed engine on the PS3 is still wide open and Valve could use the revenue stream. Especially since they know the PS3 is going to be growing in numbers for years and will be around for a very long time before a PS4 debuts.
At least, that's how I see the situation.
FrodoTBaggins @ Sep 24th 2008 6:01PM
I've read all the news and understand all of this, but developers make the decisions they make for a reason. Despite what has been said and done by developers, i'm sure it's all been done in the name of profitability which is fair enough.
I mean at the time Gabe was probably just pissed cause he saw what was an unnecessarily complicated architecture in the PS3 and didn't see the PS3 user base to be big enough to justify the production costs. Now with all the positive momentum of the PS3 he does see profitabilty and is changing his mind.
People always seem to take a negative view on posts like these saying things like "I won't buy his game" among other more personal insults based solely on politics which is my point. The bottom line is PS3 has one more developer with a proven record of pushing out great games and people should be happy.
deathxrebirth @ Sep 23rd 2008 11:38PM
Sorry, but can this guy afford a freaking shirt without stains on it?
As for Valve... Counter Strike was great (when I was 15), I could never even beat Half Life 2 (because of loss of interest half way through), Portal was great (but wasn't even their game initially?) and I have interest in L4D, but I won't cry if it never comes to PS3.
Point is, I have tons of games to play on the PS3 despite what people want you to believe. I could care less if Valve invests fully in the system. If they do, they do, if not, bug f-ing deal.
John @ Sep 23rd 2008 11:38PM
This guy is a hater. He hates himself, and he transfers that to everything.
John @ Sep 23rd 2008 11:38PM
This guy is a hater. He hates himself, and he transfers that to everything.
killian @ Sep 24th 2008 12:21AM
I will never but this guys game ever again... loved HL2
But after what he said the last time... he can go pissoff...
Ayrkain @ Sep 24th 2008 12:58AM
Hey Jem, how's the LBP Beta? Hee hee...
Gambit07 @ Sep 24th 2008 12:58AM
Guys, Gabe isn't the ONLY one working on Valve games, there are dozens of people, and maybe a few of them actually like the PS3 and would love the develop for it.
Efeez1986 @ Sep 24th 2008 6:42AM
Who cares? Valve is the most overrated game dev. in the industry besides Bungie. The Orange Box was overrated as hell, the only decent game on there was Portal and that wasn't even that great. I still don't understand why Half Life is considered so legendary. Now everybody is overrating Left 4 Dead when it looks like a PS2 game and a standard FPS.
Ty @ Sep 24th 2008 9:50AM
When you consider the other shooters around, Half Life is pretty much platinum (atleast if Halo 3 is gold). Left 4 Dead is hyped because there aren't many PC co-op shooters that are specifically designed for it. That being said, L4D should be pretty good for the PC community.
The only alternative is still Zombie Mod on Counter-Strike (or Counter-Strike: Source).
About the graphics; I thought the same thing lol. But it looks like valve has stepped in and upgraded all of their models to a TF2 engine representation of HL2-like designed characters (lots of facial expression movement and the lot). It passes... this time.
I'm debating on whether to get it or not. (I never even touched TF2 more than 3 times total)
maxpontiac @ Sep 24th 2008 1:59AM
Funny how money brings out the true side to things.
I love how certain devs think they are the best thing to hit since sliced bread.
In all reality, they owe us, the gamers who spend our money big time.
Nathanical @ Sep 24th 2008 2:15AM
Gabe: "Maybe the Cake isnt a lie... Maybe there Cake in PS3... Gabe like cake!"
I think its a good thing theyre looking into PS3. As much hate as there is for this guy from the PS3 camp (arguably deserved), more games, without being botched port jobs (Orange Box), cannot really be a bad thing. If you wanna boycott them, just dont buy the games. I for one do not want to miss out on a great game just because i disslike its developer.
Martin hald @ Sep 24th 2008 2:15AM
Even if valve makes the most original game on earth i won't buy it, just because its valve and all the s*** they've been saying about ps3. .
Kellian @ Sep 24th 2008 3:44AM
Laundry detergent is not a lie.
OddyOh @ Sep 24th 2008 4:28AM
OK Gabe, let's see what your dev team is made of...be aware if your titles for PS3 aren't 10/10, people will rip on you forever though. But, money is money!
seedaripper1973 @ Sep 24th 2008 5:15AM
Just look at the picture of the man, he spends so much time stuffing his face, he can't be bothered to change his shirt for publicity shots (ewww...egg stains running down his front)..i can just imagine him sitting at his desk(heavy duty chair), keyboard to the left, graphics pad to the right, and a 1 pound sub stuck in his gob, bits of food all over his desk, burping, salivating and farting, ordering the poor tea boy to go and get more donuts...the image makes me feel physically sick...maybe when he suffers a heart attack (and the machine used to revive him is 'cell' based) then he can look back at the irony...w@nker!
pfft!
Nineteen88 @ Sep 24th 2008 12:08PM
"Maybe when he suffers a heart attack (and the machine used to revive him is 'cell' based) then he can look back at the irony.."
Nice one mate. it maybe very true. The Cell is a revolutionary chip. Heck it's as revolutionary as the Clickwheel that made the iPod so famous.
Twinturbo120 @ Sep 24th 2008 6:29AM
yup thats right keep em coming....
SimplyB @ Sep 24th 2008 8:20AM
You can't make up for your idiotic statements over the last 2 years Gabe. Why would I want to start buying your games now. With how lazy everyone knows your company is I bet it takes you 2 more years to get up to par with the PS3's architecture.
Ty @ Sep 24th 2008 9:43AM
Humans these days. Always too quick to bash. Took Newell long enough to realise though... hey atleast he did.
Now if only Microsoft would quit making 360s so that the PS3 can successfully migrate this generation into the real next generation of video games.
deaftly @ Sep 24th 2008 9:47AM
I love the mentality of the majority of the comments on this site, basically everyone is making fat jokes. Way to go, you all fail at everything. I thought high school started back up gain.