No hard drive installation for Killzone 2
by Alan Tsang 
{ Nov 26th 2008 at 12:45PM }
ADD sufferers who happen to be Killzone fans can rejoice! According to Seb Downie, the QA Manager at Guerrilla Games, Killzone 2 won't have any sort of install on the hard drive, even if you wanted to! "No install. Optional or otherwise." Good to hear -- at least it is one less thing the naysayers can complain about. Now we have a new dilemma: what to do with the extra ten minutes of your life? Play more Killzone 2, duh.
[Via VG247]
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Waqas @ Nov 26th 2008 12:54PM
ooh nice hope they can do this on futre games
rice @ Nov 26th 2008 12:55PM
I rather have the install for
1) make the game load faster
2) more important, less strains on the media drive, motor and laser.
dz @ Nov 26th 2008 1:01PM
+1
If you can't wait 10 minutes to do an install after waiting three years for the game, then you ahve serious issues...
and like i commented before if you bring the, "but i'm running out of space on my hard-drive" to this discussion you need to be slapped...
dnlkk94 @ Nov 26th 2008 1:28PM
Killzone 2 will feature very little loading times. This game is designed specifically for it to be STREAMED off the disc. Loading times will be near invisible as the data is streaming off the disc.
See:
Blu-Ray (Less compression on textures) + Cell processor (Good at streaming) + big budget for KZ2 (Streaming can be a bit hard to implement) = little to no loading times.
bonini @ Nov 26th 2008 1:47PM
I would rather it be optional as well. I have a 320 GB hard drive, I would install the whole game if I could.
Danny F. @ Nov 26th 2008 2:27PM
Same here, doesnt hurt to make it optional as most games are opting for. Its a win-win situation that way. Hope this doesnt become a issue were loading is later blamed on the blu-ray again :-\
Copland @ Nov 27th 2008 8:05PM
I agree with you, rice.
Developers should let the user choose if he/she wants to install the game on the HDD.
Some games really go hard on the Blu-Ray drive.
Thinking about the lens on the PS2, I'm worried about the Blu-Ray drive dying on me too fast.
Some user don't like installing, but some users prefer it.
So they(developers) should definitely put in, an optional install feature.
AJ-90 @ Nov 26th 2008 12:59PM
ok but it should be optional it feels like old ps2 days worrying about the memory although i do have a big hard drive
MaliceMajorE15 @ Nov 26th 2008 1:02PM
yeh they should have at least included the option. specially cos im gunna be on it all the time and i dont fancy having my ps3 work too hard
Nick @ Nov 26th 2008 1:07PM
Your PS3 will be fine. It was made to spin the disc, anyway. Worrying about the BluRay drive just because you have to spin a disc isn't really giving Sony credit for the quality of the system.
Nick @ Nov 26th 2008 2:01PM
I guess I'm just used to my 360, which sounds like a jet engine as the disc is read.
That said, the less my optical drive is used, especially in a combo system, the better.
Let the installs be optional, but don't take them out all together, that's just goofy especially seeing as Microsoft has now made it a very publicized benefit (it's the best thing to come out of the NXE for me, that's for sure)
Tyler @ Nov 26th 2008 2:39PM
Funny because 360 fanboys would complain about HDD instals for the PS3. Then all of a sudden MS does it and the fanboys just go with it, forgeting that they ever bashed on Sony for instals. Just goes to show that Sony is leading this generation with the inovations.
Nick @ Nov 26th 2008 2:48PM
I would like to make it clear that I am in favor of installs (optional or otherwise) but I'm not worried about the drive going to hell because the PS3 has to spin the disc.
linebeginstoblur @ Nov 26th 2008 1:09PM
Call me crazy, but I don't think a ten-minute installation is that bad. If you ARE a Killzone fan with ADD, don't you think it would be worse to not have an installation? Now with the longer load times in between gameplay, that translates to longer times in which you could get distracted with other shiny objects.
Leon @ Nov 26th 2008 1:14PM
I guess some folks dont have patience. :-|
Leut. Vague @ Nov 26th 2008 1:17PM
Is no one else absolutely amazed by the fact that this game has doesn't have an install, even though this game is going to so graphically fantastic? I thought that this game would have a huge install, like Bioshock.
Shawn @ Nov 26th 2008 1:20PM
If it has managable load times, then it's a good thing theres no install. It's shaping up like Guerilla Games could show just about everyone how to program for PS3 now.
Kilo720 @ Nov 26th 2008 1:22PM
ok tha good i really didnt care if that game had it
gillyy0 @ Nov 26th 2008 1:26PM
I wouldn't have minded if a mandatory install was necessary.
Tyler @ Nov 26th 2008 1:27PM
IDK, They did the same thing for Resistance 2, no HDD instals. Reason why was because the game and level loaded during the cutscenes. maybe thats what their doing in Killzone 2, having the level load while the cutscenes are going on. Plus they are useing defered rendering so the game will run smoothly even without the instal.
Nugent @ Nov 26th 2008 1:39PM
Resistance 2 does have an install, its just very small. The first time you load up the game it says its "initializing" or something like that, and if you look at the back of the box it says it uses a few hundred MB of HDD space.
As more developers get used to Blu-Ray, I think mandatory installs will become less common.
Tyler @ Nov 26th 2008 2:34PM
No that wasnt an instal. It was a patch for the game. the memory needed on the back was the memory need for the SP campain saved data.
Gambit07 @ Nov 26th 2008 1:30PM
Wow, amazing, now people are complaining it has NO install. If the dev team thinks the game does not need any install for the game to be running good, then the game just doesn't need it. They used their voodoo coding that's all.
Wrathbringer @ Nov 26th 2008 3:39PM
People will always bitch, even if you give them what you want. This is one of the main reasons I hate people.
andylee92 @ Nov 26th 2008 1:39PM
Im fine with no install, happier to say the least because I cant upgrade my hard drive so I need all the space I can get plus look resistance has little install and it works fine little long to load but. Plus we do you need to say work on your disc drive when its there to use? I want everything my ps3 can do why not let it do that? Cause what is the point of not using the drive if its there? thats just wasted space and time and money on it, in that case. Plus COD games dont have install and they work really good. cheers.
nakedatthecomp @ Nov 26th 2008 9:48PM
why can't you upgrade your hard drive?
Jerses @ Nov 26th 2008 1:48PM
Nice!!!!! But to sad that no one else (msg4?) has used the cellprocesor as it should. Maybe its that multiplataform thing...anyway good for those guys over Guerrilla i hope this game stand the mega hype it looks cool
maidsandharem @ Nov 26th 2008 9:21PM
"Maybe its that multiplataform thing..." really? :P i thought we already went over this mgs4 and multiplatform never go together in a sentence, thats voodoo grammar ... or a very long time X)
michael @ Nov 26th 2008 2:09PM
I like to see more games get more optional HDD installation. If the 360 can have it, why not the PS3? We can choose to install or not.
Livi70590 @ Nov 26th 2008 3:46PM
om nom nom nom nom nom salt.
Rice @ Nov 26th 2008 5:54PM
Have you guys ever heard R2 loading // spinning the drive a lot, especially at beginning of stages? Stuff like that = I hate, which is why I rather have install (optional would better since not everyone would want install).
It's not bitching and complaining, it's your personal opinion like how you have yours. If people didn't have opinions, this world wouldn't even work.
Daniel Lawson @ Nov 27th 2008 5:22AM
It should be optional... but I can see a point to it... also it's not really needed if the game is made for the system to take the BR into account.
tom @ Nov 27th 2008 10:46AM
i thought that was the reason why fallout 3 keeps fuking up
MattDark @ Nov 27th 2008 10:21AM
I certainly have to praise for not forcing another install on our PS3, but I have to agree with the folks, surely an optional install would be fine to have.
Still, if this means they can pull off a game with small load times, its going to be sending a definite message out there to other developers, in a 'we did it, why cant you?' style.